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Those English Heritage audio guides are so boring, and even the newer sort seem to constantly malfunction. I think I'll write to them suggesting they commission you to redo them.
Being a life member of both EH and the NT (extremely good Value if you get them when young, and a great way of spending unexpected windfalls), and having now visted a goodly proportion of the sites each look after, I think EH have a lot to learn from the NT. Signs and written info other than the very expensive guide books being one thing.
Blue Witch | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 9:51 a.m. | #
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Agreed, that fort has a truly impressive layout!
Want to see more fortifications built to defend & then never actually used in anger, DG?
Come to Portsmouth & view Palmerston's Follies - forts on the hill above Portsmouth & out in the Solent built to defend the city against the French, even though the next time we really went to war it was on their side!
Bronchitikat | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 12:15 p.m. | #
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If you were there on monday I might have seen you - is there a Bataville post comming up? There and Foulness were our next stops.
james | 07.05.08 - 12:21 p.m. | #
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Tilbury Riverside is an interesting example of how the past impacts on our rail system today. Although, Tilbury is associated in most minds as being part of the old LTS system (now c2c) it wasn't - it was part of the Midland Rail (later LMS). Its service was to and from St Pancras. The service is now truncated to running between Gospel Oak and Barking and if you want to travel outside the UK by rail then go to St Pancras!
Netball Coach | 07.05.08 - 2:59 p.m. | #
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might an economist suggest that it paid for itself indirectly ... as a deterrent to potential invaders ?
tristan forward | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 4:15 p.m. | #
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Confusingly, "Passengers No More" by G Daniels & L Dench (Ian Allan) quotes a "Tilbury (Marine)" station of the Midland being closed on May Day 1932. Wonder what that was?
felix | 07.05.08 - 5:42 p.m. | #
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Felix, perhaps it's this.
Oliver | 07.05.08 - 6:52 p.m. | #
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Oliver, the picture still looks like Riverside.
I recall boarding the Alexandr Pushkin cruise ship there on a family day out c.1965, when she, now the Marco Polo, was brand new,snapping my parents under the Hammer and Sickle flag with my Instamatic 50.
felix | 07.05.08 - 10:20 p.m. | #
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How could you have gone to Tilbury with venturing to have a look at St Chads road, home of the local football club? They got to the third round proper of the Cup in the late seventies, & played Stoke City, if my memory's right.
And wasn't there a pub in the town that was once named the worst boozer in Britain?
The Fatalist | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:39 p.m. | #
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Only one of the worse boozers in Britain? I reckon there might be more than one... and possibly the worst cafes, too, right next to Tilbury Town station - if it's ever open...
Yes, it's a pity that the current entrance route to the fort means that you don't get the full immediate sense of the lakes and fortifications. First time I went there (1989) you did so, as you entered from the north side, and thus passed the moats before you reached the central area. Unfortuantely I think some of the wooden bridges that had been constructed along that way got damaged or destroyed at some later stage...
Tilbury Fort is great - Coalhouse Fort at East Tilbury (although open very seldom) from the Napoleonic era also... but the real mysteries of the Thames Estuarine Coast....Canvey Island, and, if you dare (and if you are able) Foulness Island...
I love South Essex (though Tilbury is a very very depressing town)
Venichka | 08.05.08 - 1:49 a.m. | #
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Highly amusing... yet informative.
john | Homepage | 09.05.08 - 4:09 p.m. | #
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