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I am offended that you used my social media comment for your story. I clearly tweeted, on the 29th February 2009 that I hereby withdraw my permission for anyone anywhere anytime to use the words I willing publish on a public forum, as per EU regulations 8153:9';_73+919_;_;7789;':. Don't @ me.
Elaine | Homepage | 20.04.19 - 7:16 a.m. | #
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Funny map. Being critical, shouldn't the A4 be in a navy blue.
Ahbut | 20.04.19 - 7:58 a.m. | #
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I especially love how this map pretends the South Circular is some sort of coherent presence rather than a bunch of winding backstreet zig-zagging haphazardly across south London.
Mike Newman | Homepage | 20.04.19 - 8:07 a.m. | #
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The Moby Dick (pub) is in Whalebone Lane.
Running_Correspondent | 20.04.19 - 8:09 a.m. | #
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It's funny now the Yorkshire Grey shut down many years ago and locals still refer to the roundabout next to it as the Yorkshire Grey roundabout, even though there is a whacking great McDonald's in its place (fyi don't go there it's awful)
Rachel | 20.04.19 - 8:20 a.m. | #
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Charlie Brown's predates the cartoon character, also pleased that TfL use it on destination blinds when buses are turned short.
Nice that some local names live on long after the original (normally pub) has ceased to exist - Charlie Brown's was a cafe - a regular call for lorry drivers before motorways, according to the Wikipedia entry there was a pub here called The Roundabout, it had a model of a carousel on top of a post outside, the cafe was a business opened by the landlord - Charlie Brown.
Luckily the 1972 equivalent of DG was out and about. [YouTube}
Still Anon | 20.04.19 - 8:50 a.m. | #
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Wonder why most of the radial routes stop short of the M25.
dg writes: Because it's a map of London.
Andrew | 20.04.19 - 8:58 a.m. | #
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Just done an article with reference to your post on this quite hidden carmageddon network map.
hydeparknow.uk/londons-carmageddon-map
Rog | Homepage | 20.04.19 - 9:31 a.m. | #
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What is that road turning left at Purley. It surely ain't the A23, because what the line that serves Coulsdon?
A22 for Eastbourne, anybody?
Petras409 | 20.04.19 - 9:32 a.m. | #
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I understand why the M25 doesn't feature, but you know it's TfL when it doesn't include the ends of the M1, M4 and M11.
Philip Downer | 20.04.19 - 9:33 a.m. | #
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Love your frothingly incandescent post, Rog. I presume it's satirical?
Terry | 20.04.19 - 9:42 a.m. | #
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On the map when the A3 passes Hook Junction it becomes the A243 according to the stops listed.
RogerP | 20.04.19 - 11:08 a.m. | #
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The cycling and walking lobbies won't be pleased that it omits the only road tunnel under the Thames through which you can cycle and walk.
Gerry | 20.04.19 - 11:19 a.m. | #
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Whoops.. it does.
Gerry | 20.04.19 - 11:25 a.m. | #
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@Terry: I thought it was clickbait!
Rog | Homepage | 20.04.19 - 11:27 a.m. | #
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There are plenty of other anomalies, such as the A30 being labelled as a spur of the A4, and the A202 between Vauxhall Cross and New Cross being shown as part of the A20. But that's mere detail.
DG - not sure I understand your point about copyright - making something public is not the same as allowing other people to copy it.
timbo | 20.04.19 - 11:45 a.m. | #
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According to my Geographers' London Atlas (7th edition), Apex Corner in Edgware is actually Northway Circus in NW7 (Mill Hill). But the sub-PO is called Apex Corner as are the bus stops (and the short turning blinds used on the 113).
Ian | 20.04.19 - 11:46 a.m. | #
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You have explained why motorways are not included, but the M4 somehow gets mentioned twice.
kev | 20.04.19 - 4:18 p.m. | #
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Missing the A5 Edgware Road as well - since the work to make Gloucester Place and Baker Street two ways it appears that more coaches are using it to access the M1.
JonathanH | 20.04.19 - 6:40 p.m. | #
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kev, the M4 runs for a short distance above the A4 just after the Chiswick Roundabout and the intersection of the A4 M4 is shown.
Likewise on the A312 the M4 goes over the A312 and the intersecting point is shown.
John | 20.04.19 - 7:04 p.m. | #
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Timbo, you make a good point about copyright but it is irrelvant here anyway as DG hasn't posted a copy of the map, instead he's linked to the original as Tweeted
Agent X | 20.04.19 - 7:46 p.m. | #
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Tottenham Hale isn't on the A10. Either that or there should be a slight curve on the map to include it.
IsarSteve | Homepage | 20.04.19 - 9:27 p.m. | #
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An interesting geographical split for descriptors that indicate road junctions.
Cross is a South of the River term, with the exception of Brent Cross, where Interchange is the nominated term.
Circus is defintely a West London term.
Corner is a North and South West term, with just a couple of outliers in the south east.
Unsurprisingly, Roundabout is fairly universally spread, but Junction is absent from the South East sector.
Inevitably there are exceptions to these rules, but other geographical clusters are there to be spotted.
Petras409 | 20.04.19 - 11:23 p.m. | #
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As someone who listens to BBC London from the exurbs this is very interesting. I was very disappointed when I worked out which junction on the A40 Savoy Circus was, I expected something a bit more dramatic
John Styles | 21.04.19 - 7:58 a.m. | #
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Where is the apparently terminal point north of Kennington Cross?
Petras, Whipps Cross is also North, but isn't located conveniently for inclusion on the map.
Ian | 21.04.19 - 8:33 a.m. | #
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I can't tell whether Elaine's comment is serious, or a clever continuation of the article's theme.
Ryan | 22.04.19 - 12:56 p.m. | #
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