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Well it's a big hello here from the Wapentake of Hang West in the North Riding of Yorkshire.
Putters | 23.07.23 - 7:45 a.m. | #
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Of course, it depends on how historic you want to be (and how pedantic)
Middlesex was extracted from Essex, perhaps in the 10th century (which was probably why it got no flag till a relatively timely 1910; and some reckon Surrey was also part of Essex.
Boundaries have assumed greater prominence in the last few weeks, mainly from childish decisions not to allow signage giving advance notice of the ULEZ on county councils' property, thus likely giving rise to numerous U turns bang on the [modern] county boundaries!
Crispy | 23.07.23 - 8:07 a.m. | #
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And hello from the Hundred of Codsheath in Kent. I'm very proud to be a Man of Kent and have a great affection for the Invicta flag - it's about a sense of belonging. Of course that's not true for everyone, particularly those (unlike me) who have moved around the country.
Waterhouse | 23.07.23 - 8:11 a.m. | #
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My flagpole owning neighborhood flies a series of flags to mark various occasions. These including the red and yellow strips of Northumberland, which Eric Pickles will be delighted to learn are not an unusual sight across homes, allotments and car stickers in those parts of Tyne and Wear which are north of the river Tyne as well as the current country.
Rod | 23.07.23 - 8:13 a.m. | #
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The shells on the Bedfordshire flag are for John Bunyan, author of The Pilgrims Progress
Simon G | 23.07.23 - 8:15 a.m. | #
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The shells on the Bedfordshire flag are the arms of the Russell family (Earls and then Dukes of Bedford) and date from at least the 1530s.
HoosierSands | Homepage | 23.07.23 - 8:38 a.m. | #
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A 'historic tradition' has to start somewhere.
Still Anon | 23.07.23 - 8:40 a.m. | #
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Three words meaning much the same, but with nuances: traditional, historic, obsolete.
Ian | 23.07.23 - 9:02 a.m. | #
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Many people in Devon* regard the alleged flag with suspicion, coinciding as it does with Plymouth Argyle's colours ...
* OK, many people in Exeter and Torquay
D9000 | 23.07.23 - 9:18 a.m. | #
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What a massive waste of everyone's time and effort (the historic flags, not this blog).
Scott | Homepage | 23.07.23 - 9:18 a.m. | #
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the opiate of the masses
Caroline | 23.07.23 - 9:35 a.m. | #
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Ossulstone or bust! 🏁
Rich G | Homepage | 23.07.23 - 10:11 a.m. | #
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Going to be that person and mention that Cumbria still exists. It just doesn't have a county council any more. But it's still a ceremonial council.
I know the traditionalists try to deny this. But by their logic, the abolition of Cheshire County Council in 2009 would have stopped Cheshire existing!
Andrew Bowden | Homepage | 23.07.23 - 11:03 a.m. | #
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Don't forget the bit of London in Hertfordshire, thanks to the rather odd Hertfordshire-Middlesex boundary.
greatkingrat | 23.07.23 - 11:07 a.m. | #
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Andrew; think you mean Cumbria is still a ceremonial county - not council¬
crispy | 23.07.23 - 11:10 a.m. | #
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My little black & white St Piran's cross flies proudly from my windowsill all year round!
Trying to build a cohesive national identity by only displaying the flags of English counties seems an odd way to go about it!
Thanks for the Wikishire. As an enthusiastic family historian I often come up against border parishes and wonder which county to put them in. Slough is the one that most readily comes to mind. I've always thought of it as being in Berkshire, not Buckinghamshire!
Cornish Cockney | 23.07.23 - 11:12 a.m. | #
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Crispy - I did indeed. Glad someone's paying attention!
Andrew Bowden | Homepage | 23.07.23 - 11:18 a.m. | #
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Cornish Cockney - I always write Slough BUCKS on forms requiring my place of birth, with pride. I am not a Berk.
Scrumpy | 23.07.23 - 11:28 a.m. | #
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And London has a flag too--since the creation of the mayoralty, simply the word London.
Jonathan | 23.07.23 - 12:46 p.m. | #
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Classic post today. Hooray for the Anglo Saxons whose kingdoms a lot of our boundaries originated from. The Romans just thought we were a cold and distant suburb of Rome.
Tones | 23.07.23 - 4:13 p.m. | #
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I am full of admiration for the flags-in-the-sky method of depicting a triple point.
n.b. A man of Kent now posting from Codsheath must have migrated west of the Medway. Unless I have got my Kent/Kentish distinction inside out.
Malcolm of Kent | 23.07.23 - 5:07 p.m. | #
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my home county of Lanarkshire appears to not have a flag - as with most counties of Scotland, in fact.
martin | 23.07.23 - 5:52 p.m. | #
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County cricket fans will recognise many of those flags. Indeed cricket is one of the few things that keep the historic counties "relevant", when you consider that Middlesex still exist and Surrey play at The Oval, for example.
Mikey C | 23.07.23 - 11:41 p.m. | #
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Surrey to decide if they want to play in Guildford or the Oval. If the former Middlesex to be renamed Greater London, if the latter the 2 to be renamed Greater London North and South.
All post addressed to Middlesex to be fed straight into a wood chipper.
John Styles | 24.07.23 - 12:16 a.m. | #
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Some Londoners, like me, live in none of the counties listed, but can lay claim to the coat of arms of the City of London - dragons and dagger and all
barbicanman | 24.07.23 - 1:19 a.m. | #
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Malcolm of Kent - the maternity hospital was east of the Medway. Other than my arrival, my life has been spent in Kentish Man territory.
Waterhouse | 24.07.23 - 7:03 a.m. | #
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