please empty your brain below

As a late-getter-upper, this time of year is not good news.
*goes into hibernation*
Hi DG - where did you get your data -or did you use a formula based on the latitude? I wondered if a sine wave (with two jumps) would be a different way of showing the times?

This link might work.
I used Old Moore's Almanack, and then checked against timeanddate.com.

My table's deliberately simplistic, to get a feel for sunset rather than having to interpret a jumpy sine wave.
The extra hour in bed is an illusion of course. Nothing can change the fact that there are 24 hours in a day, regardless of what the clock says.
Computer ground to a halt. Email web page may've behaved slightly oddly. C:\ drive had errors after visiting the ptaff.ca link although link looks OK with McAfee SiteAvisor. Sorry if this causes any grief although it might just have been unlucky coincidence. Running virus scan now.
And there was me thinking this was a draft station tiling design for the new Northern Line link to Battersea.
And I thought you must be travelling underground in Glasgow...
Ridiculous. Leave the clocks alone. I hate the dark evenings and afternoon sunsets.
When you say "leave the clocks alone"... You realise that the timezone we are now in is the natural one, don't you?
No, I prefer DG's nice chunky diagram. so much easier to understand than the sine wave lines.

It may not be so precise, but much more pleasing on the eye - and readily understandable.

I might print it out and stick it on my cupboard door.
Me too, Petras409. Bit depressing not to see any daylight at all in November/December though! :(
Yes Kirk I do. Leave the clocks at BST.
No, leave the clocks on GMT and just do everything an hour later all year round. Campaign for real time!
I would prefer Summer time all the year round.
With regard to Sarah, once the clocks go to winter time I do everything an hour earlier, not later.It gets light an hour earlier now so I get up an hour earlier and go to bed an hour earlier, that way I do not waste any of the daylight hours.
Would be much easier if we did not change the clocks and stayed on BST, or if we must change them then use Central European Time which is always an hour ahead of GMT.
At least I can nowadays flea to southern Spain where it is a bit lighter in the winter.
Virus scan was OK. I gather no-one else liked the graph! I think I would like a line giving sunset running through the rectangles. This would likely be a pain to do on top to the html table though!
Sorry John, that was confusing - I meant earlier. BST is just a way of tricking us into doing everything an hour earlier throughout the summer by pretending it's an hour latervthan it actually is. If we want to stop changing the clocks, we could stick with GMT and just have a once and for all shift in the time we do things like go to work, shop etc. We would be able to make the most of the daylight hours, stop messing about with the clocks, and know that the sun was roughly overhead at noon all year round.
Campaign for real time...? I haven't checked recently but the restaurant car on the trans-Siberian railway used to run on Moscow time throughout its journey, even though this didn't match with the local time at the eastern end by 8 hours!
Great! Dark by 1700.....
Sarah - the sun is never "overhead at noon" in the UK, or indeed anywhere outside the tropics....
I'd genuinely like to understand why people find a sine-wave style graph more confusing. In my opinion, the graph in half-a-physicist's link isn't so easy becasue i) there's too much on it, ii) the time of day axis would be more intuitive in the other direction and iii) putting time of day on the horizontal axis as dg does might help too. But the clumping I just don't get.










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