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Still Anon | 29.05.22 - 7:14 a.m. | #

What a contrast to the Victoria Line with its cross-platform interchanges. But that was achieved by reusing old tunnels and platforms and limited the tunnel size. I’d rather have prioritised large trains and spacious platforms.

I’m shocked, though, that there is no direct Crossrail to Central Line interchange tunnel. Was this a cost cutting decision?

Dan | 29.05.22 - 7:18 a.m. | #

This is really helpful - thank you.

Artie | 29.05.22 - 7:47 a.m. | #

The Crossrail/Central connections were intended to be at Stratford in the east, and Bond St in the west, so it wasn't thought that there would be demand to change between them at Tottenham Court Road. Obviously the slippage at Bond St (and phased opening) has changed that for the time being.

Tony | 29.05.22 - 7:51 a.m. | #

Thank you for another useful post. Pity the person pushing a wheelchair user. All the step-free access doesn’t really make Crossrail accessible with walking distances like these.

Veejay Em | 29.05.22 - 8:19 a.m. | #

I think Nottingham and Sheffield stations both have signs giving distances to further-away platforms; maybe some of the Crossrail stations could do rhw same.

Andrew | 29.05.22 - 8:44 a.m. | #

Forewarned with the earlier post on which carriage to use, I found the interchange at Farringdon to (northbound) Thameslink a surprisingly easy transfer, only short walks and a long escalator.

On a side note, I noticed many discreet survey reflectors have been incorporated into the escalator shaft at Liverpool Street.

Fred | 29.05.22 - 8:58 a.m. | #

Fred: I noticed that too. Are these to detect subsidence or is there another purpose?

Dan | 29.05.22 - 9:21 a.m. | #

Glad you’ve focused on this aspect of the EL: transfer to the Jubilee line at Canary Wharf is indeed a shocker – not just because of the 7 minute walk through the heart of the shopping centre (something that CW owners insisted upon, perhaps?), but two defects in signing: a too-small first sign stuck as an afterthought to a pillar as you leave the EL station, and then no signing whatsoever at the end of Jubilee Walk where you’re suppposed to take the escalators down to the JL concourse. TfL staff there are very alert to the deficiencies, so let’s hope this gets rectified soon.

Phil SW11 | 29.05.22 - 9:37 a.m. | #

Great post. Fascinating that it took you exactly the same time to reach the Circle Line platforms at Moorgate and Liverpool St, so maybe the name of the Crossrail station should reflect this.

Mikey C | 29.05.22 - 9:42 a.m. | #

I tested out the Elizabeth Line yesterday. The interchange at Tottenham Court Road to the Northern Line was very indeed good, only took about a minute.

The Jubilee Line to Elizabeth Line interchange at Canary Wharf on the other hand I agree was very bad, when I came out of Canary Wharf Station into the square there was no sign saying where the Elizabeth Line was and it took a couple of minutes to work out that I had to go through a shopping centre under the One Canada Square skyscraper. Finally Canary Wharf Elizabeth Line station looks like it wants to be a shopping centre rather than a railway station.

Phil | 29.05.22 - 10:11 a.m. | #

Dan: That's my guess but maybe someone knows the details and if any other structures are so similarly targeted

Fred | 29.05.22 - 10:15 a.m. | #

I got off a H&C line train at Whitechapel yesterday and I was surprised to see a lack of signs on the westbound platform pointing to the Elizabeth line. if you’re a geek like me, you know they there on the overhead gantries but they remain covered by a white sticker. Anyone at TfL reading this, please pop down to the District/H&C platforms and reveal all.

me again again | 29.05.22 - 10:26 a.m. | #

I wonder how far it’ll be from crossrail platform to victoria line platfrom. (via the hanover sq entrance to bond street) i'm guessing it'll end up being 7/8 minutes.

Alistair Twin | 29.05.22 - 10:28 a.m. | #

Londoners who use public transport generally look slim and fit. They walk a lot in spite of such good and close by public transport. I'll never forget how far we walked at Bank to change lines.

Andrew | Homepage | 29.05.22 - 11:03 a.m. | #

I thought the other day how unlikely it is I'll ever need to use the Purple Line and seeing as my most likely interchanges would be at TCR from the Central line, Liverpool St from the Met or Canary Wharf from the Jubilee, I'm even more convinced after reading this!

Absolutely hate navigating my way round Canary Wharf's shopping centre!

Cornish Cockney | 29.05.22 - 11:04 a.m. | #

I was at TCR on Thursday and meant to check out the Central Line connection but changed my mind. BTW Crossrail is useless if anyone wants a Piccadilly Line connection in the centre.

daveid76 | 29.05.22 - 11:16 a.m. | #

Just think how much time everyone would save if they extended the trains to their maximum length now and filled the centre carriage with a garden.

Basil Jet | 29.05.22 - 12:25 p.m. | #

The four longest Crossrail interchanges:

1) Canary Wharf → Jubilee
2) Tottenham Court Road → Central
3) Liverpool Street → Shenfield services
4) Paddington → Hammersmith & City

...all of which take over five minutes

diamond geezer | Homepage | 29.05.22 - 1:20 p.m. | #

If you arrive at the Farringdon East ticket hall, on Long Lane, and discover, as yesterday, that it is closed for entry due to staff shortages, that it is a 6 1/2 minute walk to the entrance on Cowcross St, which is a further 2 1/2 minutes to the platform. Total time elapsed, 9 minutes from entrance to platform.

Concerned | 29.05.22 - 1:24 p.m. | #

Paddington to Platform 12/14 where most of the West services leave is quite a bit longer than 3 1/2 minutes

M | 29.05.22 - 3:53 p.m. | #

Woolwich to Woolwich Arsenal DLR time needs to factor in the traffic light-controlled pedestrian crossing at the Beresford Street/Beresford Square junction.

dg writes: five minutes is the minimum if you get lucky with the lights.

StevenS | 29.05.22 - 6:54 p.m. | #

Realistically, these are probably the best interchanges possible given what else the tunnellers had to thread through. Journey planners will presumably take the times into account and even TfL's one lets you specify minimised walking. If Crossrail isn't better than people's current routes they can stick to those, with trains often less crowded than before. No-one is worse of than they were before (except possibly some bus passengers).

...and Canary Wharf EL station should probably have been given a different name to lower expectations, but I'm guessing the Canary Wharf estate objected.

Andrew S | 29.05.22 - 9:49 p.m. | #

Canary Wharf already had a precedent of having multiple stations called Canary Wharf which were nowhere near each other.

Dan | 29.05.22 - 10:37 p.m. | #

Looks like the Central Line interchange got mangled in the 2010 cost savings exercise. It was supposed to link up with Crossrail at a lower level ticket hall, connecting o the wider passage that runs parallel to the central line. See the last couple of pages in this pdf for the diagram.

jamesup | 30.05.22 - 3:50 p.m. | #

I do wonder what would be quicker from, say, Paddington to North Greenwich: using the appalling interchange at Canary Wharf or staying on till Custom House and walking to the cablecar.

dg writes: Stop wondering, the cablecar walking connection is even longer.

James D | 30.05.22 - 11:22 p.m. | #

D Geezer - I timed the Canary Wharf interchange to Jubilee Line today and it was exactly 10 mins, and that was striding at a decent pace and not getting lost. You sure about your 7 mins?

dg writes: yes

Neil | 03.09.22 - 10:12 p.m. | #

Would be nice if you could do an update to include Bond Street, but also your thoughts on the interchanges a year later, and with full service.

Mike Jones | 15.07.23 - 3:18 p.m. | #











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