please empty your brain below

It would be interesting to know whether any of the companies involved will be penalised for these ongoing delays - after all, someone, somewhere, put this project together, and lots of companies contracted to make it happen.
They just need to get it done. But as time progresses, it becomes ever more astonishing that the projected opening date remained December 2018 until August last year. It must have been plain as a pike staff for quite some time that there was no way Bond Street was going to be ready. Someone must have known it would be at least another 2-3 years. And if they didn’t know, that is clear evidence of negligence. Who knew what and when?
A great example of how project management should not be done. Contrast to the decimalization of the currency in 1971 - a practically perfect example.
Interesting article in the Yorkshire Post on our esteemed Prime Minister's handling of Crossrail.
At Liverpool Street they finally seem to have started work on the subway to the main tube station - at the top of the Central Line escalators. The wall is boarded-off now.
The have not published the planned closure of platform 18 at LST yet either so 16 & 17 can be extended to take the four nine carriage trained that will run into LST M-F in each peak. It makes me wonder why they are bothering when it would be easier and much cheaper just to run them into the core central section along with other services.
So, the tunnelling part was completed what, nearly 4 years ago! It would appear that most complex mega projects around the world rarely come in on time and budget. Just ask the Germans how long they have been waiting for the completion of their new Stuttgart rail station, or better, their new Berlin airport. Software nowadays seems to be the most complex part any sophisticated project.

A couple of months after it's up and running, most of us will have forgotten about it's delay and just be using it day-to-day.

But the knock on effect is sorting out the additional costs and could we see years of political delay before projects like Crossrail 2, Bakerloo ext. and HS2 Northern ever, if ever, get off the ground.
When I worked at TfL I had to liaise fairly regularly with crossrail. My impressions weren’t great, it was very difficult if not impossible to get information out of them or work with them in terms of how the stations intergrated with the rest of TfL or the transport network.

There seemed very few people (albeit at the more technical junior/middle management who I dealt with) who could see or understand the bigger picture. They had so many process driven, technocrat programme managers who were obsessed with keeping the Gantt chart updated, internal governance and setting out a project plan; ironic really considering all the delays.

I always felt Crossrail being an independent entity within TfL didn’t help. There was very little accountability and relationships between senior TfL officials and Crossrail executives strained or often non-existent.

I left before the delays came out but if there had been issues my team should have known (based on the work we were doing) so it was a pretty well kept secret that they were running so far beyond; of course a lot of people suspected issues!
The peak time trains that will go to the existing Liverpool Street station have to do that because the central underground section will be full to capacity. But the platform remodelling to allow full length trains to do that cannot start until the pressure on the high level station has been relieved by some trains going down the hole.
It's a mess.

Some projects, even some involving software, do get completed on time. Most do not. Perhaps we should be looking at the ones that do, to figure out how they manage it.
Is there something here we aren't being told? I'm just wondering, but is there a relationship between the governments withdrawal of the £700m grant to TfL - and TfLs inability to complete this project?
A shambles. Indeed a disgrace that it got to 100 days before the Dec 18 date before they admitted that it wouldn't be ready, when subsequent events have shown that it was running years late, not months.

This reflects very poorly on TfL and isn't great for Sadiq really, for either not asking the right questions or for too easily being fobbed off by the answers he wanted to hear
Good article in the Yorkshire Post.

Looks like fragmentation of the national rail network could be >considered< to be the cause of the problem:
"Crossrail Ltd was a separate entity, the lessons are numerous. By splitting the construction work into 36 separate contracts, it meant there was no co-ordination and no one at the Department for Transport offering oversight."
These big projects often run late and over budget.

20 years on no-one remembers that the Jubilee Line Extension was 3 years late and massively over budget.

It’ll be worth it in the end.
It was not just the Jubilee Line extension that was late, but the original bit too. Renamed from the Fleet Line for a royal event supposed to co-incide with its opening, it didn't do so until May 1979.
I worked on Jubilee Line Project Extension (JLEP)as part of TfL's Team.
The project suffered from a number of the same problems:
- Initial programme activity periods and logic being based on time available rather than the time required, thus the set completion date drove the durations and the logic and not the other way round.
- Isolation from reality e.g. lack of respect for TfL standards.
- Reluctance of upstream manangement to accept that actual delays in day to day progress must impact the final completion date, in fact the response to repeated site delays was to shorten remaining time available durations and so bring the end date back on track.
- Lack of co-ordinating of cross-project contracts with station specific contracts which meant that our station could not be sure when the cross-project contractor would be available to work for us.
- Lack of a cross-project Commissioning Programme tying in all the stations and the line wide installations.
In view of all of that I can fully appreciate how the project "suddenly" went into delay. What I cannot understand is why, given the obviously incomplete state of a number of the stations, it was so late in the day. Nor can I understand why the delays are continuing to increase.
The other difficulty I have is with the ever increasing costs, i.e. the extra money to be paid to the contractors. Whilst a certain proportiion of this will be for delays caused by the project, for which TfL are responsible, some of it will be for delays caused by other contractors / suppliers from whom recovery should be sought. Another reasons is that the extra is for the actual costs of Provisional Sums (we have no idea what this will cost, but let us say £X and when we have designed it we will agree how much we will pay) but given that the project was almost finished(!) most of these should have been resolved. Again, it could be the extra costs have arisen from additional works being instructed but, as above, the project was almost finished.
There is however the elephant in the room, as in DG's table:

Canary Wharf Aug 2019 "Upgraded all the fire protection"

Not the words "Upgraded" and "all"
Thanks, Strawbrick. Sounds like no one learned the lessons from 20 years ago, or perhaps any lessons learned were forgotten again. Odd to be making the same mistakes on consecutive major projects...

Why are they upgrading all the fire protection at the new Canary Wharf station before the place opens? Should we read a Grenfell-related concern there?

dg writes: No.

JLEP suffered from being ring-fenced as a self-managed project, only nominally reporting to LRT (as was). This allowed the [nickname censored] team to by-pass all Underground checks and balances. I had to organise some of the meetings between JLEP and 'LU', a nightmare of the Project Team's failure to deliver material information and obfuscation. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

The ring-fencing was by government edict (ta, Mrs T & co - I still despise you all), on the basis that the Underground cost too much, took too long and still didn't get it right. Hence the tunnel collapse at Southwark. That was foreseeable, as was the same at Heathrow, using 'NATM' on clay subsoils...

After the North Greenwich mess where the "biggest hole in Europe" almost fell in, 'we' gained mandatory control over JLEP and surprise - things began being done properly.

Exactly the same with CrossRail - no lessons learned. Everything still designed on a narrow perspective cost:benefit minimum return of 1:1.3. No surprise it's late, and all other major projects for London will be too, unless philosophies radically alter.
I acnnot believe they used NATM on clay subsoils.

They should all be locked up.
From Wikipedia:
"The 1994 Heathrow Airport tunnel collapse led to questions about the safety of the NATM. However, the subsequent trial blamed the collapse on poor workmanship and flaws in construction management, rather than on the NATM"
"It is astonishing that not one of the nine new underground Crossrail stations is yet fully complete, even though they were once supposed to be receiving passengers last year."

but once it became apparent that the whole project was delayed, there was no point paying overtime to get the central section stations finished ... might as well save a few bob and spread out the work.
It's now July 2020 and we're still on 'Dynamic Testing', with no date yet given (even speculatively) for 'Trial Running'.
Trial Running has finally begun today, 10th May 2021










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