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0528 ridden and now back in bed: the joy of living in Kennington! Deplorable craven boondoggle maybe but at least I now have an easy one stop ride to a proper supermarket!!
Joe | 20.09.21 - 6:00 a.m. | #
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Disappointed to find that deplorable. Craven.Boondoggle isn't the what 3: words identifier for Battersea Power Station Station
Ian | 20.09.21 - 6:09 a.m. | #
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Bit of a game changer for the large areas of unglamorous existing housing south and west of the new Battersea station, where we have previously relied on an eclectic set of minor stations and 'already full' buses. But I fear the Bakerloo line extension (and any similar future benefit there) is doomed, because most of the biggest development sites there are already being developed without ringfenced cash from the developers towards a tube extension.
David | Homepage | 20.09.21 - 7:41 a.m. | #
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The developers of Battersea Power Station and surrounding sites are not "greedy". This has been a wasteland for decades, many developers have lost money on drawing up proposals that never got off the ground. The upfront money they put at risk is considerable and has led to 1000s of construction workers having jobs and in time 1000s of people having a home to live in.
If the developments are profitable, they should pay tax on them, if they are not their owners lose money.
I have never understood why purchasers of new homes are expected to subsidise the provision of social housing. If we want social housing (and I do) then it should be paid for by general taxation.
The Northern Line Extension exists because the private sector effectively paid for it - if you want the Bakerloo and Metropolitian line extensions then you have to persuade the electorate to vote for higher taxes to pay for them.
Besides serving the new developments around Battersea Power Station it also serves a large amount of existing social housing developments at both Battersea and Nine Elms.
It is a welcome addition to London's transport network and shows quickly schemes can be put in place if you get the funding and political will right.
kerspatula | 20.09.21 - 7:54 a.m. | #
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Poor editorial, you’ve missed the wider points expressed by the previous commentators. As existing locals of SW11 it is most welcome.
SW11Londoner | 20.09.21 - 8:02 a.m. | #
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Part of the reason there hasn't been a tube extension in so long is because TfL has spent the last 15 years improving and extending other modes like the Overground and DLR, both of which now serve areas which previously had very poor transport connections. None of these extensions were particularly or specifically funded by big business.
Medford | 20.09.21 - 8:34 a.m. | #
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Clearly I've been away from London for too long because I was entirely - and I do mean - entirely oblivious to this development until I read about it opening this morning.
but I at least knew where to go to read about it ;)
garax | 20.09.21 - 9:02 a.m. | #
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BBC London this morning tweeted: “The first new Tube stations this century.”
They should have read this morning’s DG blog, unless Wood Lane and Heathrow T5 don’t count.
muppste | 20.09.21 - 9:13 a.m. | #
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It's not the tube extension I would have wanted, but it does serve a purpose
The Bakerloo Line extension to Lewisham is desperately needed, but I've never been entirely convinced by the Croxley scheme, especially as it seems odd for TfL to spend its money on a scheme which primarily benefits residents of Herts and indeed Bucks
Mikey C | 20.09.21 - 10:12 a.m. | #
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Agreed, Bakerloo is desperately needed more than this.
I suppose it'll all make sense when (if ever) Camden is rebuilt, and the new extension is pushed on to Clapham Junction (relying on CR2?), and the Northern can be split into separate lines. At my age I fear I shall be pushing up daisies before these days arise.
The Northern Heights fell foul of a lack of money after the war, maybe future historians will blame brexit and covid if these plans never happen.
Dave | 20.09.21 - 11:27 a.m. | #
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Perhaps the supporters of the Metropolitan line extension should campaign first for Watford to become a London borough.
JohnC | 20.09.21 - 11:36 a.m. | #
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Benefitting residents of Herts and Bucks (Mikey C, above) wouldn’t necessarily be all bad: I live in a bit of N London that experiences considerable through commuter traffic from those areas, not all of which are served by National Rail into King’s Cross or Marylebone, so a tube extension that gives an alternative to roads might be a long-term benefit both for the out-of-towners and Greater London residents. How it should/would be paid for (rates increase in the shires?) is another matter, of course.
Labourer | 20.09.21 - 12:11 p.m. | #
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Battersea Power Station station seems quite handy if you're like me and you only ever go down that way from 'oop North London to use the running track in Battersea Park. Now it's just a trip on the Northern line.
Boris | 20.09.21 - 12:16 p.m. | #
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I used to work in the wilds of Nine Elms some years ago when it was still offices and light industrial units. A station, and the forthcoming cut-through under the SW rail line, would have been most welcome. Perhaps not the Northern Line extension I would have wanted but as others have said, it does serve quite a few estates that have been ignored for a long time. And it hopefully brings us a step nearer a fully-split Northern Line one day. Other projects were - are - worthwhile but realistically this was the only game in town.
Ned | 20.09.21 - 12:40 p.m. | #
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I should add there is a tendency with all new rail projects - the Jubilee Line extension, Crossrail etc - to argue that it's not needed and you should do something else. The rail community is entirely populated by Harry Enfield's Mr You Didn't Want To Do That. And then it's built, it's used and you wonder how you ever coped without it.
Ned | 20.09.21 - 12:44 p.m. | #
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Interesting to see Camberwell mentioned as an area in need of a tube connection. I wonder if any proposals...
dg interrupts: Yes.
cau1khead | 20.09.21 - 1:13 p.m. | #
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" but I've never been entirely convinced by the Croxley scheme, especially as it seems odd for TfL to spend its money on a scheme which primarily benefits residents of Herts and indeed Bucks"
While this is true, the people who use it will be paying fares to TFL and travelling into London to spend more money there. Plus it is badly needed - the tube station in Watford isn't in the town centre, it's some distance away in a housing estate. Terminating it at Watford Junction (which already has Overground services) makes much more sense and would drive up traffic on the line. It will also serve as a useful relief line into London - if the lines into Euston break, as they do frequently, everyone has to go to the other side of Watford to get on the Met line.
The reason it was cancelled was, I suspect, as no one here votes for London Mayor so cancelling it won't cost any votes but will save a few quid.
Watford Resident | 20.09.21 - 1:21 p.m. | #
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The "first new... this century" is not an error exclusive to the BBC. The reports all seem to originate in an error in a TfL press release that everyone's blindly copying.
Tim Roll-Pickering | 20.09.21 - 1:24 p.m. | #
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Let’s not forget the improvement enjoyed by the users of Nine Elms station (disclaimer - including me). Surrounded by some of Lambeth's large social housing estates. Wyvil,Hemans & Landsdowne Green.
While other areas may have a better case for an extension, it’s never a here or there decision. The funding would not have happened anywhere else.
Wilcox | 20.09.21 - 1:44 p.m. | #
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There is a lot of catchment especially in Nine Elms, lot of social housing nearby. My ex used to live right outside where the station sits in one of those estates. Maybe should’ve stuck with him for a great excuse to use the new extension!
Ah well, I’ll be taking a ride on Wednesday instead.
Jacques | 20.09.21 - 9:50 p.m. | #
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Also notable for the lack of bus changes (not even a short extension of the P5), I assume most passengers will still change at Vauxhall, as the Victoria Line may well still be quicker for most journeys unless you specifically want the stations from Kennington to Tottenham Court Road, or want a guarenteed seat if going to Camden and points north.
Perhaps they'll eventually be a rationalisation of bus services across Chelsea Bridge (44, 137, 452, N44, N137), the 137 and 452 having a common section that looks vulnerable to cuts if passengers change at Battersea, this station may also become a preference for some of those who live to the north of Clapham Common.
Still Anon | 21.09.21 - 8:59 a.m. | #
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What Wilcox, Ned and kerspatula said.
David | 21.09.21 - 9:36 a.m. | #
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