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The area is also seriously polluted, soil-wise. Move there, you'll get leukaemia in a hurry.
M | 09.09.14 - 7:40 a.m. | #
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"A new station at Old Oak Common" !? Ooh.. where's that mentioned then/ (Not being lazy, have looked, can't find it)
geofftech | Homepage | 09.09.14 - 8:11 a.m. | #
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Old Oak Common on the consultation map here: https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/london-overground/gobe/user_uploads/future-london-overground-map-k-.pdf-3
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How long I wonder before Overground starts splitting out into different "lines"? "Overground Circle" or something...
Andrew Bowden | Homepage | 09.09.14 - 9:14 a.m. | #
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Re Surrey Canal Road, TfL seem to have lost faith in the surreycanal.com development, and I can understand why. Construction has been pushed back by another year recently, and the station will only be built once the area is inhabited - hopefully before 2026. I shall visit their Open House box.
commonliner | Homepage | 09.09.14 - 9:28 a.m. | #
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88 Overground stations north of the river, 22 south of it - where rail services still run mainly to make profits for largely foreign-owned* private enterprise.
* even more foreign if there is a "yes" vote next Thursday
timbo | 09.09.14 - 9:46 a.m. | #
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@ Commonliner - isn't it the case that Lewisham Council and Millwall FC have become mired in a dispute about the nature and scale of development near the football ground as well as some of the "tactics" being used to try to progress the scheme? If they are still at loggerheads it's nigh on impossible for the development to progress. Lewisham can use compulsory purchase but I imagine they are reluctant to do so.
I wonder if there is a time limit for the construction of the station given the developer's contribution will be eroded by inflation over time. The later it gets the tougher it will be to make the £7m funding stretch to provide a fully functioning station and TfL have no spare cash.
PC | 09.09.14 - 9:50 a.m. | #
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@ Geofftech - just south of Willesden Junction station on the new map. It will be constructed if the redevelopment of the area goes ahead. The Mayor is consulting on creating a development zone covering the site. OOC would eventually have a HS2 station, a Crossrail station and possibly an Overground station but there's been all sorts of debate about how the Overground would be routed through the area and what services would stop there (NLL or WLL or both and possibly a new Hendon - Hounslow service).
PC | 09.09.14 - 9:53 a.m. | #
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"Move there, you'll get leukaemia in a hurry"..... a bit alarmist, M ! It's not as if Barking was a nuclear power station (though it was once one of the largest steam generating power stations in Europe). Plenty of similar sites have been cleaned and returned to safe use (e.g. Greenwich peninsula). The DLR extension was 'laid dormant' rather than 'scrapped' - to my knowledge, the costs of the scheme were looked at again two years ago, but the Roding river crossing was a 'cost too far'......
Paul | 09.09.14 - 9:57 a.m. | #
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Actually it's more foreign owned state enterprise.
The big foreign hitters in the London rail trade (outside of Overground) are:
Keolis which own a mere 35% of London Midland, Southern, Southeastern (and soon to add Thameslink Great Northern). Keolis are part of French state owned rail company SNCF - the other 65% is owned by Go-Ahead who are firmly British.
Abelio - which owns Greater Anglia is 100% owned by the Dutch state rail company.
Arriva - which owns Chiltern. A former UK company now owned by the German state railway company.
The rest are all British owned private enterprises. Although if the vote is Yes, South West Trains and First Great Western would end up in the foreign camp.
Andrew Bowden | Homepage | 09.09.14 - 9:58 a.m. | #
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They'd better get on with the development before some rare species grabs a niche there and renders it un-developable. Nature tends to do things like that!
Bronchitikat | Homepage | 09.09.14 - 11:09 a.m. | #
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(Seen the back cover of Metro today?)
dg writes: No.
Greg | 09.09.14 - 11:17 a.m. | #
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@timbo: I know you know this, but Overground is operated by a consortium including MTR (of Hong Kong) and Deutsche Bahn. LOROL is making plenty of money for those two companies.
Arctic Troll | 09.09.14 - 11:28 a.m. | #
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DG,
If you would like to see I have Barking Riverside on the 2050 map I did recently.
2050 Tube Map | Affiliated (blog)
It's based on the whole of the Greater London Authority) "2050 Infrastructure Plan: Transport Supporting Paper".
Enjoy!
Briantist | Homepage | 09.09.14 - 12:34 p.m. | #
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Drove on the A13 close to there yesterday, if you don't get ill from the polluted ground you will definitely get ill from the polluted air around the A13.
Wasn't it quoted as being one of the most air polluted areas/roads in the country?
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Not just the pollution...what of the electromagnetic field around those transformers and power-lines?
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The Overground will probably end up becoming more like the S-Bahn systems it is analogous to, and have its own line numbers and colours before long. There are at least eleven possible routes even including only end-to-end lines and the potential for passenger confusion in a sea of orange will need addressing.
Whoever designed the 2026 map forgot to add that Watford Junction will be interchange with the Met by then.
Siwi | 09.09.14 - 4:01 p.m. | #
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@Siwi: I did a different version of the map before
http://ukfree.tv/styles/images/2014/london-overground-network-map-with-new-lines%20version%202.svg
It's the 2015 map so it doesn't have the Watford Junction map.
http://ukfree.tv/styles/images/2014/Tube2050/London%20Infrastucture%20Plan%202050%20Transport%20v6.svg
does of course, as it's 2050.
Briantist | Homepage | 09.09.14 - 4:09 p.m. | #
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The Telegraph reported last week that Barking Power Station could be reopened...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/11070173/Emergency-measures-to-prevent-blackouts-this-winter-as-power-crunch-worsens.html
Steve Bird | 09.09.14 - 4:16 p.m. | #
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@Arctic Troll
There is a difference - like the TfL buses, LOROL is contracted to run the service for TfL, but TfL keeps the revenue and pays LOROL a fixed fee. The TOCs like First and Stagecoach and Abellio and DBRail pay a fixed fee (or are paid a fee) to operate the franchise, but they get to keep the revenue.
timbo | 09.09.14 - 11:32 p.m. | #
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@Steve Bird,
That's a different (and far newer) Barking Power station. The older one was on a different location, further west, near Creekmouth. The newer one is nearer Dagenham Dock.
Dominic H | 10.09.14 - 1:50 a.m. | #
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@Greg - I don't normally look at the back of the Metro, but I saw your comment and sought out yesterday's edition. 'Diamond geezer' emblazoned in big letters if anyone is curious.
s | 10.09.14 - 10:55 a.m. | #
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Glad that the extension is to somewhere starting with a B, otherwise we might have to refer to the line as something other than the GOBLIN.
martin | 10.09.14 - 6:53 p.m. | #
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Speaking of non-intersection London Overground lines, does anyone know if they have started building the Hackney Downs/Hackney Central link yet? http://www.londonreconnections.com/2013/the-hackney-downs-hackney-central-link/
Chris | 12.09.14 - 1:31 a.m. | #
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