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Nicholas Sunshine on YouTube has a useful video on the Barking Riverside extension, courtesy of drone footage which put the line in context.

Still Anon | 11.07.22 - 7:38 a.m. | #

it seems odd to me that the flats seem to have been located quite far from the station, with a big sprawling suburban looking school in the way. I guess a lot of the pupils might be using the line as well.

Alistair Twin | 11.07.22 - 9:06 a.m. | #

I happened to be cycling through Thamesmead yesterday and could see the new Barking Riverside pier and station across the water. It struck me as a shame that a pier hadn't been build at Thamesmead to allow a reasonably easy connection over the water to the Overground and finally give this forgotten bit of London a way to access rail at what I assume would be a relatively low cost. But I guess there's no developer money to splash in Thamesmead.

Sean | 11.07.22 - 9:59 a.m. | #

London has quite a few examples of putting in the transport links first and the housing coming later - such as Metroland. But of course there are a some that didn't work out.

Peter | 11.07.22 - 10:09 a.m. | #

It is a shame any amazing corners of natural habitat must be utterly despoiled.

Cornish Cockney | 11.07.22 - 10:29 a.m. | #

I appreciate your effort to put things right on your map even if they're off topic.

roland | 11.07.22 - 10:37 a.m. | #

I'm no londoner, so I might be wrong.
But wouldn't it have been better to extend the H&C line (or what ever it is called today) to Barking Riverside?

Just wondering...

dg writes: no

Thomas K Ohlsson | 11.07.22 - 11:12 a.m. | #

Why?
Most passengers coming from B Riverside will change to District/H&C-trains at Barking.

Thomas K Ohlsson | 11.07.22 - 1:18 p.m. | #

It would be more useful if trains from Barking Riverside ran into Liverpool Street via Stratford.

JohnC | 11.07.22 - 1:30 p.m. | #

TKO: Extending the GOBLIN involves much less track (re-)building at Barking station.

Patrickov | 11.07.22 - 1:31 p.m. | #

All other things being equal, yes it would be better to send the H&C terminators to Barking Riverside. However in practice, it would have been a lot more expensive to try and build the necessary flyovers to get them over to the Tilbury lines without conflicting with anything else. There was already a flyover connecting the Overground with platforms 7/8 at Barking, so no work at Barking was needed.

greatkingrat | 11.07.22 - 1:38 p.m. | #

Quite a contrast with other cities, Cardiff being an example, where vast developments are constructed, and only afterwards do people start to scratch their heads and have vague thoughts about public transport. A shame there does not seem to be a way of developing housing and transport in tandem.

cau1khead | 11.07.22 - 3:08 p.m. | #

Meridian Water wis/was another example of transport first, housing later in modern times

MilesT | 11.07.22 - 4:20 p.m. | #

I think there *is* passive provision for a future station at Renwick Road....

Paul | 11.07.22 - 5:20 p.m. | #

"Quite a contrast with other cities, Cardiff being an example, where vast developments are constructed, and only afterwards do people start to scratch their heads and have vague thoughts about public transport."

Or DG's old stomping ground of west Watford where a supermarket went up a few years ago and blocks of flats are under construction, but the planned tube extension that was supposed to serve them died due to rapidly accelerating cost estimates and an inter-party dispute over who would foot the bill. (Watford - LD, Hertfordshire - Con, London (TFL) - Labour)

Graham | 11.07.22 - 7:17 p.m. | #

A bit unfair to criticise public transport opening ahead of it being needed, after all isn't how it always used to be when land was being redeveloped, e.g. Metroland and all the other estates in suburbia built after the Underground was opened first.

Indeed as Boris is often criticised for taking the credit for projects started under Ken and not starting anything himself, he probably deserves some acknowledgment for this...

Mikey C | 11.07.22 - 10:24 p.m. | #

It seems like operations at Barking will become more tricky, with Overground, Tilbury passengers and Tilbury freight all using platforms 7 & 8. Platform 1 will no longer be used, eliminating cross platform interchange from Goblin towards Upminster.

Kev | 11.07.22 - 10:34 p.m. | #











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