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diamond geezer | Homepage | 01.03.26 - 12:00 a.m. | #
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5) According to the TfL timetable for bus 16, the only stop southbound with Paddington in its name is the terminus (full name Bishop's Bridge Road/Paddington Station, Stop K). How then can it also be a curtailment point?
Ian | 01.03.26 - 12:19 a.m. | #
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(2) I have to say my day has been made now I know about TfL’s wheel/rail flange lubrhcation arrangements, of which I had hitherto been in complete ignorance!
ActonMan | 01.03.26 - 1:24 a.m. | #
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1) That TfL response does not address the question at all. It seems fairly obvious that Hampton Court station is within the zones because, despite being just outside the Greater London boundary, its catchment area includes a significant area of Greater London. Stoneleigh was always included for the same reason.
The answer does explain (but not excuse) the quite separate issue of why Surbiton, and stations on the Kingston Loop, are in Zone 6 despite being closer to central London than many Zone 4 stations - basically "it was set that way 30 years ago and it would cost revenue to fix the anomaly now"
timbo | 01.03.26 - 7:29 a.m. | #
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11) they can't possibly know this so precisely
100andthirty | 01.03.26 - 7:40 a.m. | #
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11. How on earth can they assert this? Who is doing a cyclist census across the whole of England?
IslandDweller | 01.03.26 - 7:51 a.m. | #
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Oh boy. Such excitement with golden nuggets of FoI information so early on a Sunday morning. If only I had time to digest all this.
5) In response to an earlier reply, curtailment points does not seem to be the correct term if it includes the end termini. They can't be curtailed there.
If they had asked for CSV format as well there would undoubtedly be a lot of analysis done. Route with the most/fewest terminating points, longest name of a terminating point etc.
Not sure if the name here matches the blind display in every case.
I was interested to see that the only possible points for route 146 are Bromley North, Bromley South and Downe. Sad but not at all surprised that 'Keston, Fox' has disappeared.
There must be an even larger database of descriptions or diagrams showing drivers how to curtail at these points as it often isn't obvious. Also one inevitably sees drivers doing non-approved manoeuvres rather than the official method of terminating.
12) So two people employed just to manage overcrowding where carriage 7 stops near the bottom of the stairs and to encourage dispersal. This sort of thing is replicated many times overall throughout London e.g. up to six people required to dispatch a train at one platform at East Croydon. A real drain on staff resources that must impact the financial situation - possibly more than fare-dodging.
15) The shortest answer to an FoI request? Basically 'yes' and 'yes'.
17) I don't believe there have been any traffic wardens ('the yellow peril' variety) for years. However legislation allows for their existence so they have to be mentioned in various statutes.
Pedantic of Purley | 01.03.26 - 7:52 a.m. | #
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15. So, this suggests that I use a bank card for the first journey in peak time, then my Senior Oyster for the rest of the day? I wonder if the bank card being registered to me has the same benefit?
Nick K | 01.03.26 - 8:21 a.m. | #
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18) The shooting of lovely, speckly plump-breasted pigeons should be a court martial offence. BAAAHHH!
daveid76 | 01.03.26 - 8:21 a.m. | #
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15. What happpens if a first journey is made in peak time, subsequent journeys are off peak, (and perhaps another peak journey later in the day)?
Nick | 01.03.26 - 8:31 a.m. | #
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1. "Please also note that as a private company, South Western Railway is not legally obliged to respond to Freedom of Information requests" - but as SWR has been nationalised, that non-obligation should no longer apply?
Betterbee | 01.03.26 - 9:14 a.m. | #
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20. I am delighted to know that TfL possess a Grove Coles all terrain Crane. A google search shows there is a secondhand one for sale in the Netherlands for 75000 euros, if anyone fancied one.
Andy S | 01.03.26 - 9:20 a.m. | #
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11 - that'll be some pet organisation producing helpful statistics, there seem to be a lot of these that politicians and the media rely on to justify policies
19 - avoiding the zone 1 tax if you commute to Canary Wharf.
Still Anon | 01.03.26 - 9:38 a.m. | #
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10) DG’s moment of fame, or a devoted reader’s?
dg writes: all clickable
Labourer | 01.03.26 - 11:00 a.m. | #
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19 - but no request for Bethnal Green NR / Bethnal Green LU data?
Michael T | 01.03.26 - 11:02 a.m. | #
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19 - also useful for connecting between Weaver and Windrush lines. I have used that connection on occasions when travelling between Hackney/Walthamstow and Peckham Rye.
Malc M | 01.03.26 - 11:22 a.m. | #
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1. Though the ‘City’ and ‘West End’ Zones came in first.
Kim | 01.03.26 - 11:23 a.m. | #
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10) Did you submit this one? Consider this an FoI request.
dg writes: all clickable
18) We should open a sweepstake on which station culled 18 pigeons. Or has the FOI request already gone in?
south london lad | 01.03.26 - 11:33 a.m. | #
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9) Sort the infrastructure before you change the route.
scrumpy | 01.03.26 - 12:30 p.m. | #
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8. Being due to malfunction would be bad enough, but unavailability of staff is disgraceful.
18. :(
Cornish Cockney | 01.03.26 - 12:34 p.m. | #
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19) an interchange I was making regular use of 20 years ago - Stamford Hill to Croydon with changes at Bethnal Green/Whitechapel and New Cross Gate. All to save the cost of going via Zone 1.
20) My TfL-employed brother drives one of those VW Transporters.
Nico | 01.03.26 - 2:15 p.m. | #
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12) See also: Wimbledon NR up slow platform, has had such a barrier for many years (I assume it is still there).
Nico | 01.03.26 - 2:20 p.m. | #
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(15) so in theory if you woke up super early, popped to the local station and tapped in then out again 4 minutes later at 6am that would save you money later on if you travelled at peak time.
/not doing it.
Alistair twin | 01.03.26 - 2:29 p.m. | #
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15) I think the answer is technically correct but a bit misleading.
Yes, all of your off peak journeys are always capped at the off peak cap - you don't lose it by making a peak journey.
*but* peak journeys aren't suddenly capped at the off peak cap is you've started the day with an off-peak journey.
The off peak and all day caps are accumulated separately and the system doesn't need to explicitly decide which one the user is entitled to.
Graham | 01.03.26 - 3:01 p.m. | #
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9) They only had a few years notice then to add a bus stop on a planned diversion which was consulted on back in summer 2023.
Then again, 5+ years after the road markings for the bus stop were added as part of the West End Project, the stop on Charing Cross Road southbound outside Outernet finally opened this week (cherry on top, with a permanent bus stop pole and not a temporary one -- though nothing reflected on the digital/iBus/OpenData side yet)! So I guess ~2-3 years isn't too bad in comparison.
matthieu1221 | 01.03.26 - 3:51 p.m. | #
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20 And 1 Grove Coles All Terrain Hydraulic Crane.
Brilliant!
David | 02.03.26 - 10:34 p.m. | #
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