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Andy Burnham keeps threatening us with a 'London style transport service', but on current showing as above I think we've already got one.
D9000 | 12.05.23 - 8:33 a.m. | #
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White City - it could be it's been removed from the database, so doesn't exist as far as these doing the updates are concerned.
Still Anon | 12.05.23 - 8:47 a.m. | #
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And for anyone without a smartphone those QR codes are worse than useless to start with.
Chris | 12.05.23 - 9:29 a.m. | #
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Lift served stations do seem to be the first ones to close. The Northern Line sometimes operates a "Supertube" service during industrial action (including industrial action by the fire brigade), when they close the lift served stations - on my branch Hampstead, Belsize Park, Chalk Far, Mornington Crescent and Goodge Street - which really speeds the journey up...
Mikey C | 12.05.23 - 9:35 a.m. | #
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Completely second the comment about QR codes/smart phones — typical assumption by so many organisations that “everyone” has a smart phone, so no need to provide information in any tangible form. In contrast, though, when I followed the link to the TfL website and put a station name in, to my surprise I DID get a local bus stop map. But, as my phone is as dumb as possible, it wouldn’t have been any use at all if I was standing outside a closed station.
Labourer | 12.05.23 - 10:19 a.m. | #
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I wouldn't know what to do with a QR code once I'd taken a photo of it anyway so I ignore them. You only have their word that what you see takes you to where you think they will anyway!
Even if only the last was a genuine story, I found the others interesting too.
Cornish Cockney | 12.05.23 - 10:41 a.m. | #
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Re-2. In Hong Kong, big banners/posters are permanently available in stations to be unrolled when service is disrupted. Includes a map of the local area with bus stops, a further map showing where the replacement buses will stop, and most importantly for London in this context, a table showing all available other modes of transportation (mostly buses, but not always) to other stations on the network. This is pretty remarkable given that buses and the trains in HK run in competition and not under the same authority as is in London. This could be implemented at tube stations though I have little hope that this sort of information would be kept up to date. [pic] (top right)
matthieu1221 | 12.05.23 - 12:21 p.m. | #
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Mikey C - I used to work for London Underground. I agree,Hampstead, Belsize Park & Chalk Farm are usually closed during strike action. However, after the Kings Cross Fire in 1987, the Fennell Report recommended that if 3 consectutive "Section 12 " (ie deep level tube stations) on a line were closed, the service should be suspended due to safety reasons on the grounds that there wouldn't be sufficient staff for an evacuation in an emergency. So in theory the express service between Golders Green and Camden Town on the Edgware branch of the Northern Line shouldn't be possible.
Whether or not these recommebations have ever been breached is another matter.
Richard | 12.05.23 - 1:15 p.m. | #
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Richard, thinking about it I might have misremembered, and it's possible that Belsize Park is kept open, despite being a lift served station. It's in between Hampstead and Chalk Farm, and far shallower than Hampstead, and avoids having 3 consecutive closed stations.
Indeed until I actually used it, I used to assume it HAD escalators, because all the other lift served stations were closed.
Mikey C | 12.05.23 - 2:00 p.m. | #
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Bizarrely, Abingdon town centre has, on a slightly lonely and neglected wall in the ugly 70s shopping centre two frames for railway size posters. Usually they contain one timetable (for Radley or Oxford, I forget) and one other poster.
Presumably at some point someone decided that as a consolation prize for having the branch line shut it would get these posters, and if I recall correctly the busses from Oxford did appear in the old BR national timetable so maybe it had some weird status.
Clearly on some document or database or spreadsheet somewhere was a task to fill and update this.
It has been empty for a few months. Possibly the last person who knew about this task has retired.
John Styles | 12.05.23 - 9:32 p.m. | #
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I DO have a smartphone but I hate faffing around with it in that sort of situation - it's just too much work and hassle. Proper maps and signage are the least they should do, and the QR code should be the icing on the cake for those who are happy fumbling around on tiny screens. Grrrr.
Every Journey Matters, eh?
NickW | 13.05.23 - 7:27 p.m. | #
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