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Seems a particularly sharp practice to both increase the amount and remove the refund at once!

TomH | 04.09.22 - 8:42 a.m. | #

Even if you did mention the ramifications they'll carry on anyway.

Still Anon | 04.09.22 - 8:45 a.m. | #

So if you need a (monthly or longer) Travelcard and don't own an Oyster card better buy a paper Travelcard from a TOC.

MK | 04.09.22 - 9:31 a.m. | #

It would be interesting to see the Equality Impact Assessment for this change given that it is still not possible to use contactless cards with a Railcard - meaning that this is effectively a tax on younger, older, and disabled people.

dg writes: it's here.

Anonymous today | 04.09.22 - 11:04 a.m. | #

Well said, Anonymous. I look forward to the legal challenge.

“Equality” prevented the provision of drop-down seat back cup holders / shelves on c2c’s trains (because there’s nowhere to fit such equipment by the wheelchair space).

Robin Hood | 04.09.22 - 2:13 p.m. | #

Typical modern Robin Hood, more interested in c2c cup holders than rising fares.

Little John | 04.09.22 - 3:24 p.m. | #

Given that the major losers are tourists, it does seem fair that there is a fee, given that they don't contribute to anything that funds TfL.

When abroad, non-residents often have to pay more for transport, museums, art galleries etc etc, so it's about time we introduced the same!

Blue Witch | 05.09.22 - 11:34 a.m. | #

Some background data (from here):

"In the year prior to January 2020 nearly 9m cards were issued. Of these, fewer than 1m were still in use after 12 months. This means that of those issued across a year, only slightly more than 10 per cent were eligible for and automatically received a reimbursement of the £5 Oyster card fee via PAYG credit."

diamond geezer | Homepage | 05.09.22 - 11:33 p.m. | #

A card can end up with a negative balance, but the traveller is still allowed to exit the station. This was a prime reason for a deposit, although re-use of the card is prevented until top-up. With the new non-deposit, presumably for one's last journey, have just enough credit to get into the system (depends where you are) then make a long journey...

Nick K | 06.09.22 - 10:18 p.m. | #











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