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Of all the times you've written about bus stop M... I knew it was a bus stop on the eastbound carriageway, but I'd never realised it had a bus into Central London.
Sigh. Bus information really is the poor relation with tfl isn't it. Around the top of the Isle of dogs, various bus stops still have posters about "forthcoming changes" to routes 108 and D8..... And how long ago was that implemented!?!

dg writes: 89 weeks ago.
My local bus stop (F) hasn't had a bit of paper on it for ages.

I guess this is done along the lines of a stopped clock telling the time correctly twice a day.

Or something like that.
This is what happens when you appoint people with no direct experience of running buses in charge of running buses.
And you slash budgets.
Around me the bus stops affected by the Hammersmith Bridge related changes are very sad.

Two weeks ago they swapped white 24hr service 72 tiles for new blue tiles saying 72 "night only". As I write the daytime buses are still running.

It now turns out that the tiles are wrong on two counts. Firstly, some were at stops that won't be served after the change that starts on Saturday. This was finally confirmed yesterday giving passengers 3 days official notice of some major changes. Secondly, the rest of the new tiles will have to be replaced as the new bus will be numbered N72 instead.
The changes due to Hammersmith Bridge are a dog’s breakfast. Came out to consultation yesterday, till 1st October, but to be implemented this Saturday. Almost unintelligible because there is no map.
Some of my local bus stops have timetables for buses going to the station 3 stops away and served by 6+ bus routes but don't have timetables for the bus routes not going to the station...
The real trouble with the yellow perils is that they are posted over valid timetables, often the Night Buses schedules, which although serving fewer people are the most time-sensitive.

Along Euston Road, many bus stops still have the posters for the 10/23 alterations, and when TfL were advised of this, their reply was "Which bus stops?" Clearly, "stops in Euston Road in both directions along former route 10" [er, Kings Cross to Euston] is insufficient information...
Re. lack of information for bus travellers - Why do London Buses now only show a final destination on their display? Recently I was in a hurry to get somewhere, and the tube was severely delayed. So I came out at Tott Ct. Rd, looking to get a bus to St.Pauls. Various buses, but which? Looking it up on phone would take to long, and I'd miss a bus. So I had to guess. First wrong, second right. What benefit to passengers is there in NOT showing intermediate points on the display?

dg writes: Because the bus may already have passed the intermediate points.

Also, the text could be larger, especially useful for those with visual impairment.

However, I would guess the intermediate stops were useful for the majority of bus users, who would know enough geography to identify whether the stops had been passed or not, but not necessarily remember the exact route of every relevant bus.

How can you trust an official site which includes
"On Sunday 24 February 2019, two-way traffic was re-introduced to Baker Street and Gloucester Road"

Gloucester Road is more than two miles from Baker Street, and has always been two-way. Gloucester Place, on the other hand
Not that the Baker Street works are finished anyway, there are STILL diversions for northbound buses back onto the old route along Gloucester Place!
what's the betting for how long it takes TfL to read this blog and take down this one erroneous yellow poster (whilst no doubt leaving all the rest in place) ?

dg writes: Won't happen. They haven't acted on the tile error at Bus Stop M I pointed out in December.
of course, in the provinces operators would have to give fifty-six days notice (to the traffic commissioner and local councils) of their PermBusChanges, whereas Tfl seem to be struggling with their changes during the next fortnight.
And let's not forget that when questioned by the London Assembly as to whether front line services had been affected by staff cuts the TfL Commissioner said that there had been no impact.

Well here's an impact that's there for everyone to see. Shoddy meaningless information about changes, a document that is never updated on time, bus stop info that is not updated in time, old service change information not removed. And to think all that is being foisted on the users of the busiest mode of public transport that TfL provide (buses). How to treat your "customers" with contempt in one easy lesson. You have to wonder if anyone senior at TfL actually uses buses these days?
..."Bus Stop M" ...surely the most written about bus stop in London? ...possibly the world?
A pedant writes:

Re the N205, there's a difference between (TfL:) routes from this stop and (DG:) routes from this stop in the direction of travel.
A pedant writes:

Also, technically it should be "a route from this stop will be affected", not routes plural.
TfL contractors have been busy today tidying up the Hammersmith Bridge mess. Most N72 stops now have the right tiles in Barnes/Roehampton but TfL if you are reading dg's comments, they messed up at Barnes Station northbound.

In Putney, the Lower Richmond Road stops proudly show three new routes that won't appear until Saturday but any casual traveller will be well confused, the new tiles are there but no new timetables and unlike in Roehampton no handy yellow sign warning changes are afoot.

And as for the bus stop spider maps...
The latest update (due this evening) isn’t online as at 21:38 🙄🤭
"Edition due Thursday afternoon 16 May 2019 (delayed from Friday evening 10 May 2019)" did not appear on Thursday 16 May 2019.
Friday evening, and the PermBusChanges webpage now includes details of...

Central London bus changes

There are a number of changes happening to the following routes in central London on 15 June 2019 - 3, 4, 9/N9, 14, 35, 40, 45, 46, 53, 59, 67, 76, 100, 134, 149, 171, 172, 205/N205, 242, 341, 343, 388, 468, 476 and RV1.


There then follow 69 separate bits of information, mostly abbreviated, and no maps.
@ Chris L Most bus stops have the info attached, which may even be correct. For full insight see dougrose.co.uk. Doug Rose has designed all London blinds. Quite a man.
the "TfL's most unreliable document" is no longer ...

Discontinuation of publication
This report is being discontinued in its current format. From July 2019, permanent bus change information can be found at: tfl.gov.uk/PermBusChanges










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