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Clearly the A8 and D8 must be variations of the same route.
Whoever did the stop tiles lacks the relevant knowledge about the local bus network.
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Nope. That's not an explanation.
A8 is a National Express coach from Liverpool St to Stansted via Stratford. D8 is a tfl bus from Stratford International (hah!) to the Isle of Dogs. Totally different routes.
Anyway, they might fix this when they have to change the plates to reflect the 108 and D8 swapping routes between Stratford and Poplar. I think that's due to happen in the next few weeks.
IslandDweller | 08.07.16 - 6:54 a.m. | #
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Is there even a specific order they must go in?
Tube Geek | 08.07.16 - 7:24 a.m. | #
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Nope. That's not an explanation.
A8 is a National Express coach from Liverpool St to Stansted via Stratford. D8 is a tfl bus from Stratford International (hah!) to the Isle of Dogs. Totally different routes.
But that's just the point I'm making, YOU know they are different, but whoever did the tiles put them alphabetically - so A8 then D8, so THEY lack any knowledge about the local bus network and what's a local bus route and what's a National Express coach service.
By the way - as a normal passenger new to the area, would A8 with Coach and 24 Hours in tiny lettering mean anything - perhaps a separate panel for 'Routes that don't accept Freedom Passes and Oyster' might be better.
| 08.07.16 - 7:53 a.m. | #
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Yes, there is an order: it's in, and is the point of, DG's post.
EskimoPie | 08.07.16 - 7:55 a.m. | #
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As the A8 is a National Express service, why does it need a separate E plate?
Rob Healy | 08.07.16 - 8:28 a.m. | #
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@ R Healy - I think, but am happy to be corrected, that scheduled express / limited stop coach services to airports are shown with their respective numbers. Other scheduled coach services, such as NX to Cambridge which stops at Bow Church, are shown generically. I'd guess the airport service treatment is in recognition of locals / visitors needing more precise info to find the stop for their service to the airport.
PC | 08.07.16 - 8:58 a.m. | #
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Who cares what order it is in. More importantly is it correct?
Agent Z | 08.07.16 - 9:20 a.m. | #
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Is this the silliest and of no consequence DG post ever?
winsleigh | 08.07.16 - 9:53 a.m. | #
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Oh dear me winsleigh. You don't understand the delights of DG's blog do you.
How on earth can you call this silly? We faithful DG readers care about these things.
IslandDweller | 08.07.16 - 10:49 a.m. | #
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@winsleigh - it may appear inconsequential but when quickly assimilating information on stops with large amounts of information knowing that information is both accurate and listed methodically (and consistently so) can be crucial and buy you the seconds that mean the difference between catching and missing your transport.
PeteC | 08.07.16 - 11:01 a.m. | #
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I agree with IslandDweller. The 'silliest and of no consequence' posts are often some of the best.
James Armitage | Homepage | 08.07.16 - 11:04 a.m. | #
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When did TfL/LT start putting the tiles in order? Back in the 70's bus stop e-plates were rarely in any sort of order.
| 08.07.16 - 11:54 a.m. | #
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Bus stop M is unhappy about you being unfaithful.
Geofftech | 08.07.16 - 12:07 p.m. | #
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How strange. I stood at this bus stop yesterday and was thinking the same thing.
Tetramesh | Homepage | 08.07.16 - 12:18 p.m. | #
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Buses, again?
Steve | 08.07.16 - 1:49 p.m. | #
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Dissatisfied readers are invited to apply for a refund in the usual place.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 08.07.16 - 2:11 p.m. | #
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How good to have all the relevant bus routes shown on your local bus stop. Out here in firstbusland only two out of six are shown on our local board and one of those is five years out of date. But Last Bus is not a service, sadly.
Herbof | 08.07.16 - 3:32 p.m. | #
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You people still have buses that come regularly? And more than one route? I suppose in our village we do, but only on a Tuesday and a Thursday. But hey, now that the yokels, sorry, locals, have voted for Brexit we can expect hundreds of buses going in all directions around the clock.
TomH | 08.07.16 - 4:11 p.m. | #
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Perhaps the roundel could be half red for buses and half orange (with a blue bar) for coaches, in homage to the old red and green bus/coach stops.
Don't some national express airport buses have their own circular bus stop sign trust above bus stop shelters?
Then there's the odd orange roundel coach stop in London - Bishopsgate has one I think and somewhere out near Bexley-ish.
There are directional signs to the coach station incorporating the orange coaches roundel at Victoria underground. If TfL ever takes over Southeastern (metro) and incorporates into the Overground there will be signs on the Underground by the Victoria line escalators with orange roundels for the coach station and (different shade) orange roundels for the Overground.
| 08.07.16 - 4:32 p.m. | #
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Odd Coach stops in London [not coach stop] - as in few and far between compared to bus stops.
| 08.07.16 - 4:33 p.m. | #
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It a point, nothing more, nothing less...not something most people would really notice/worry about though? The most important factor is that the routes are displayed. Plus it a post about a bus stop other than bus stop M!
OnTheBus | 08.07.16 - 5:43 p.m. | #
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Great to see that, of today's three comment threads, this one has most comments.
Alan Burkitt-Gray | 08.07.16 - 8:29 p.m. | #
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Two commenters have referred to these as 'E Plates'. Where did this name come from, and how do you both know it?
martin | 08.07.16 - 9:43 p.m. | #
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E is for Enamel.
Gerry | 08.07.16 - 9:53 p.m. | #
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There are some coach stops on Hammersmith Bridge Road that have a longer style of plate with destinations too, and the letter appears on a dark blue blob rather than a red one.
Kirk | 08.07.16 - 10:07 p.m. | #
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This post is not "silly" as has been suggested. It is however irrelevant and unimportant to the majority of readers and - I'd venture - to the majority of users of the bus stop.
However, in a week dominated by economic gloom, random violence, and politics of many types...it's a welcome distraction from the truly relevant and important stuff that's swirling all around us.
Frank F | 09.07.16 - 8:39 a.m. | #
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It's actually a 3x3 Sliding Puzzle. Bus stop flags are being replaced so that each has a 'missing' tile.
You win free travel for a month if you call 0943 222 1234 and solve the puzzle before your bus arrives !
Gerry | 09.07.16 - 10:28 a.m. | #
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A bit late but Oprington/Petts Wood has a similar numbering with a 741 (or similar numbers I forgot) school journey Non-TFL route followed by the R's and then N199.
LOL WOT? | 09.07.16 - 9:49 p.m. | #
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You have numbers on bus stops to tell you which routes stop there? The wonders of that London
Chris P | 10.07.16 - 2:16 p.m. | #
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Dear DG, I see your blog cares about order and disorder. Could we interest you in publicising the disorder of finding new politicians of all flavours. Blah blah.. you know the rest ;-)
Dave | 11.07.16 - 11:35 a.m. | #
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