please empty your brain below
having cycle highways duplicating the Tube lines is facile and misses on eof the poits of cycling - I use the Boris bikes precisely because there is a hole in the tube network on the axis I use. Will there be a similar hole in the cycle network?

timbo | 08.03.13 - 8:18 a.m. | #

"The much vaunted Crossrail-for-bikes may run west/east, but it doesn't shadow Crossrail. It'll run along a segregated lane of the A40 from Hillingdon to Paddington (not easy to join, or leave)..."

So the former motorway A40(M) will loose a lane in at least one direction. Be prepared for gridlock in West London.

anon | 08.03.13 - 9:39 a.m. | #

7) will be a first. Not for Boris, but for any council in the world in the history of mankind.

Greg S. | 08.03.13 - 9:49 a.m. | #

I had a quick read of it yesterday and was pretty encouraged, especially with the admission of the poor quality of the original superhighways.

Of course the acid test is having the courage and budget to actually implement. A high quality route taken from existing lanes of the A40 and the Victoria Embankment would be a significant step forward for cycle provision but both expensive and bound to attract lots of opposition.

Nick | 08.03.13 - 10:03 a.m. | #

Former London Mayor Ken Livingstone used public transport so we got some new rail lines, rail improvements and more frequent buses, and a useful on some routes "Bendy" bus.
Boris Johnson uses a bicycle, the "Bendy" bus got in cyclists way so he scrapped it, now we are to get more bicycle routes.
Maybe the next Mayor after Boris will be a walker.

John | 08.03.13 - 10:42 a.m. | #

@John

The data (e.g. http://londontransportdata.wordpress.com/2011/11/14/measuring-trends-in-cycling/) suggests that the huge increase in cycling in London dates from the early noughties, well before Boris was mayor. So I don't think you can blame him for increased importance of cycling.

Nick | 08.03.13 - 11:27 a.m. | #

@Nick

John is not blaming Boris for the increased importance of cycling.

He is saying that we are seeing improvements in cycling because Boris cycles.

C | 08.03.13 - 1:10 p.m. | #

I'm intrigued as to how cyclists will get on and off the Westway - particularly at the Paddington end - do they use the slip road? (have you seen the gradient? or how narrow it is, if you want motor vehicles to retain access there too?) If they join at the Marylebone flyover, there is still a steep gradient, as well as the need to cross traffic leaving the Marylebone flyover for the A404, and coming up the Pddington slip a little further on.

timbo | 08.03.13 - 2:03 p.m. | #

But would any of it tempt you onto a bike, DG?

disgruntled | Homepage | 08.03.13 - 2:12 p.m. | #

Ah, just read more carefully your commentary under point 9. Looking forward to the first DG on a bike post in around 2015 then...

disgruntled | Homepage | 08.03.13 - 2:18 p.m. | #

And yet most of the b*stards will still ride on the pavement and sail through red lights on huge junctions.

Steve | 08.03.13 - 3:07 p.m. | #

great element on page 12

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/roadusers/gla-mayors-cycle-vision-2013.pdf

With the proviso that nothing must reduce cyclists’ right to use any road, we favour segregation. Most main roads in London are, however, also bus routes, with frequent bus stops and a far denser service than in, say, Amsterdam. The cycle lane would have to go between the bus and the pavement. Everybody getting off or on a bus would step straight into
the lane, risking being hit by a cyclist.

anon | 08.03.13 - 3:24 p.m. | #

I am not criticizing the Mayors but just pointing out how much the transport the Mayor uses might effect their transport policy.
I ride a push-bike several times a week. I also use public transport.
Very rarely I drive a car.
It should be made law that cyclists use the cycle lanes when provided, some just seem to chance their luck on the busy roads even when there is a cycle track in good condition,- not likely to cause punctures etc.

John | 08.03.13 - 3:48 p.m. | #

Steve - that's not what I see - a dozen or more of us waiting at the lights (usually behind a taxi or white van squatting in the box) and just one cyclist sails straight through. But it's him you notice.

timbo | 08.03.13 - 5:42 p.m. | #

I see an issue - some of the routes attempting to mirror the tube would be good, but I am perplexed at how they are going to constuct the Jubilee superhighway/quietway - how is it going to do Canada Water - Canning Town? It seems completely pointless to suggest going through the Rotherhithe tunnel (which had to be cleared of fumes before allowing runners to race though it) to get to Canary Wharf, than taking a lengthy diversion to Limehouse or Royal Victoria (actually past Canning Town) to cross the river and get to North Greenwich, than back the same way! I could actually see Waterloo / London Bridge - Canary Wharf useful to Canary Wharfers and could free up the Jubilee line during the peaks.

Rotherhithe | 08.03.13 - 8:10 p.m. | #

I may have spotted a spelling mistake.
In point 6, the antepenultimate word in the comment is "cablecar".
Should this not be "dangleway"?

Andrew-R | 08.03.13 - 10:11 p.m. | #

For 7) No half-hearted improvements: "Or it's a brave promise." Brave in the Yes, Minister sense perhaps? :-)

Jim | 09.03.13 - 1:43 a.m. | #











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