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Nice idea, though surely they would have been cast at the forge, as opposed to forged at the forge - so to speak.
A square plaque might have saved having a cement rendering around the outside, you wonder if they were designed for the 'headline' area at Brixton, with less thought about how they would fit in elsewhere.
Still anon | 02.12.16 - 7:36 a.m. | #
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A pedant writes..
Casting is done at a foundry, not a forge...
Tony Martin | 02.12.16 - 7:57 a.m. | #
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Classic stuff - very interesting! thanks!
Kevin | 02.12.16 - 9:17 a.m. | #
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Hope someone cleans that graffiti off the lovely Penfold pillar box.
Roger | 02.12.16 - 9:33 a.m. | #
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Wonderful. I lived in Spenser Road 40 years ago and it was lovely to think that once there was a river bubbling at the bottom of the road.
Alan Burkitt-Gray | 02.12.16 - 9:51 a.m. | #
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Tony Martin -- I don't think you can blame DG for using "forge" rather than "foundry" when the designer whose work he is describing does the same. (But you are right!)
Charles | 02.12.16 - 10:53 a.m. | #
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Good job, by them and by you.
David | 02.12.16 - 11:56 a.m. | #
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Another fascinating byway.
Point of clarification please. Are these plaques identical - which seems to be the implication of the early part of the text - or is each one unique - as seems to be suggested later?
Malcolm | 02.12.16 - 12:52 p.m. | #
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Sorry, I've read it again and DG is quite clear that 14 different designs were selected. To judge by a couple of the photos, the designs (of two at least) are similar enough to be used in a "spot the difference" competition.
Malcolm | 02.12.16 - 12:57 p.m. | #
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Following the link to "all things Lost River", I strayed off-piste and resurfaced in a parallel dimension. A nice, familiar looking article from way back, but produced by London Geezer. Is this your brother, DG ? The surname's the same.
Or is it a bit of market segmentation, designed so that you can charge the tourists a hefty viewing fee, while keeping the original recipe DG blog free at the point of use for us old faithful readers ?
PS Back on topic, my mother used to play in Brockwell Park as a little girl in the 1930s.
petras409 | 02.12.16 - 3:42 p.m. | #
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I've got family friends on Chevening Road, luckily not quite above the old watercourse.
I presume that in the main the river was filled in and it's just groundwater movements now, at least in the higher reaches? Maybe I should buy a book to find out.
Sykobee | 02.12.16 - 7:08 p.m. | #
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It seems that a new book about the Effra was published last month: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1909930423/
dg writes: Third link in the post (not that it was especially obvious).
M | 04.12.16 - 10:36 p.m. | #
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@DG: Sorry. I hadn't spotted that link.
M | 05.12.16 - 12:11 a.m. | #
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You mention Croxted Road with which I am somewhat familiar. There's a black stinkpipe at the corner with Norwood Road, which is a clue, and the map posits a missing plaque to be placed just outside...my house.
I've not seen it, but I'll have a look.
Simon | 08.12.16 - 5:41 p.m. | #
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By which I mean the aspirational map rather than the DG map. I'll pop back if I spot either of the missing ones around here.
Simon | 08.12.16 - 5:44 p.m. | #
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There is a plaque on the corner of Rattray Road and Kellet Road, outside the Effra Hall pub, and one on the corner of Canterbury Crescent and Popes Road, following in a line from the six in Canterbury Square
VeeJayEm | 18.02.17 - 2:05 p.m. | #
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There's a plaque on the west pavement on Rosendale Road just south of where it crosses Thurlow Park Road
Geoff | Homepage | 02.03.17 - 5:46 p.m. | #
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Another plaque has appeared in Brixton, in the middle of Pope's Road,about halfway between Brixton Station Road and Atlantic Road. It looks brand new, no rust yet.
VeeJayEm | 05.03.17 - 11:41 p.m. | #
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I've just found a plaque on the corner of Rushcroft Road and Coldharbour Lane. It lies on a neat line from the two on Rattray Road to the two on Pope's Road, all fairly evenly placed. I still can't find a map of where Lambeth Council plan to place them.
VeeJayEm | 06.03.17 - 2:37 p.m. | #
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The best part is probably now Brixton Road, if you can stand the air pollution. North of the six in Canterbury Square there are these five on the corners of Brixton Road:
Villa Road, Loughborough Road, Normandy Road, Vassal Road and Cranmer Road.
VeeJay Em | 15.03.17 - 11:37 a.m. | #
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This evening I found a plaque on Ardlui Road at the junction of Chatsworth Way in West Norwood. I love the Effra and had no idea this scheme existed until I stumbled across the plaque today, did some googling and found this post! You can see where the river once flowed as the grids off Lancaster Avenue dip into a slight valley. I walked around to find another, but alas not yet!
Carrie | 01.08.17 - 10:13 p.m. | #
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Today I spotted a plaque on my way home from The Oval! And, after a day of watching Surrey, it was very much the highlight of the day.
It is to the south-west of the ground, on the north-west corner of the junction of Claylands Road and Meadow Lane.
This does mean that the path of the Effra illustrated on the map is about 100 metres further from the ground as it flows around The Oval.
I will look out for more the next time rain stops play.
Andy Stevens | 19.08.19 - 10:41 p.m. | #
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We used your map as inspiration to go on a proper hunt for the plaques. So far we have found (we think 39...) here is a map of the locations as far as we think. Having said that, we think the one on Normandy Road is now gone, and we think here should be some more around Oval/Vauxhall area but are still hunting. Enjoy the hunt guys.
[Google map]
Jonathan Cook | 03.04.21 - 12:12 p.m. | #
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Jonathan Cook, nice work! I had a similar idea a few years ago and have recently started looking for plaques that I missed back then, and found these comments.
From your map I can see I missed Norwood Park and Cemetery and Idmiston Road, so will pay them a visit soon.
On my map I have one on Elias Place just south of Oval tube station that you don't have on yours. Also, I did get a photo of the Normandy Road plaque in 2018; it would be a shame if it has disappeared since.
[Google map]
I'm planning to visit Vauxhall again soon to do some searching despite having walked around the bus station a thousand times already.
Stephen Tjasink | 03.04.21 - 7:17 p.m. | #
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The Idmiston Road one doesn't seem to follow the path of the river exactly. It's basically opposite the side entrance to Chatsworth Baptist Church. Enjoy.
Jonathan Cook | 03.04.21 - 9:20 p.m. | #
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