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And while you are there, add on a visit to the Crystal Palace farm, courtesy of Capel Manor College, and meet the naughtiest pony in London! |
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Thanks for very poignant blog. This was one of the last places I visited with my brother and provided me with the opportunity to get last good picture of him, in this case orthogonal.
We were aware the subway existed since the late 1970s and sporadically there were open days in the late 1980s and 90s where you could visit it. After that the condition decayed so the open days stopped for safety reasons. I am not sure if the custodianship changed over the decades but all those involved with it did an amazing job both working on and raising money to keep the worst decay at bay. I believe the subway was nearly lost so the present subway is a fitting tribute to all those unknown and unsung people and there tenacity. So thanks to all of them for their selflessness and foresight. t |
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A visually striking but slight historical artefact. How are you self-identifying today DG - as an imbecile, a berk or a dodderer?
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Landscape rather than Portrait, obviously. This message should be tattooed on the hand of every mobile phone used who wants to take pictures outside.
The media should ban footage of outdoor events (flooding, etc.) if it's filmed in skinny Portrait mode. New bus route boys take notice, too. Rant over. |
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I was probably one of the annoying dodderers constantly spoiling your photos. My late mother remembered watching the Crystal Palace burn down from her bedroom window in Beckenham. I wrote my dissertation on the cultural impact of spaces that are no longer there....the sort of post-modernist stuff we were encouraged to think about in the 1990s!
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It's not easy*, but you can see how often these events have been in the past. Sat 6th Dec, Sat 15th Nov, Wed 29th Oct, 13-14th for open house weekend, Sat 19th July, Sun 8th June, Sat 24th May. It gives hope for future weekend openings.
*Click organisers name and be scrolled down, click it again to get to all upcoming events, click past events. |
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If you appreciate victorian brick and stonework extend your visit to Crystal Palace to view the old Paxton Tunnel mouth (access via Spinney Gardens) even though it is now closed off. Also the large mansions with huge porches at the west end of Crystal Palace Park Road are well worth seeing. Many of the local streets have large victorian houses which show that the area was a very desirible place to live then (and in my view still is).
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Could you really hold a wedding or drinks event in a location with no toilets?
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As a local I can't tell you how frustrated I am that after all the millions spent on it, it's only open a few hours a month.
A better way to cross the woeful Crystal Palace Parade is desperately needed, and this would be ideal, but we are told that vandalism is the overriding concern. Well in that case you might as well just shut every public area in case it gets vandalised. It's a vanity project that does next to nothing to improve the lives of people in Sydenham, Penge, or Upper Norwood. Hugely disappointing. |
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I really must commend you for not putting actual links in the Click-bait version. I wouldn't have clicked....but the humor factor would have been worth it.
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I went on a Saturday a month ago. And there was a portaloo by the entrance. The volunteer guide was very keen to tell me that only 1st Class Passengers came through the subway. 2nd and 3rd Class passengers went round the side and down the hill to get to the Crystal Palace. Yes, it is a vanity project but there's a lot to be vain about. If only all public transport infrastructure in London was this wonderful.
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It would end up like any subway - unused because humans prefer the shortcut across the road, the places where this doesn't happen are where the road is fenced off - but in the case of Crystal Palace you need gaps for the bus stops and bus station, so that'll be the crossing point.
As a venue you need proper parking and toilets - does it have enough WOW to pay the bills, or is it all wishful thinking from people skilled at filling in paperwork to get public funds for pet projects. |
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"since when nothing of any interest has happened"
Though with a Men Who Like Buses hat on, there are the bus embankment breaches of 1999 (no. 3, London Central, Optare Spectra) and 2001 (no.2, Arriva London South, DLA, link to news article below). |
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There are miracles every where in Crystal Palace, like these loos.
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A suitably multi-faceted kaleidoscope of perspectives, given today's subject matter.
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The Crystal Palace High Level line closed in 1954 because the geography means that very little housing was built within reach of its stations (and much of that which was consisted of low-density villas) - there simply was not enough passenger traffic.
It was one of the few electrified Southern Region lines to close. London Transport's route 63 was extended from Honor Oak to Crystal Palace, this being the replacement bus service (this section is today covered by the 363). |
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