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Thought-provoking piece as ever, thank you.

It's Essex County Council rather than Epping Forest DC that has not kept up to date with repairs on Amanda Close. Highways is a strategic function in two-tier local government land and so sits with the county instead.

THC | 23.08.23 - 7:19 a.m. | #

There doesn't seem to be any consistency - why does Somerset Close (yesterday) escape, whilst other exclaves, like those listed today have to pay?

The existing ULEZ has similar areas which can only be reached from outside but are caught anyway. One of tghese is Townmead Road in Kew, which leads directly ioff the (for now) exempt South Circular Road and leads to only the council tip and the crematorium. Putting those two sites within the zone seems to have been calculated to encourage fly-tipping amongst those unwilling to pay £12.50 to dispose of old mattresses, and to prey on the recently bereaved, many of whom will be unfamilar with the coincept of a ULEZ - people travel a long way to funerals and very few people visit the same crematorium more than once or twice. These points were made to TfL at public meetings but the TfL reps were unsympathetic and apparently unfamiliar with the geography of the area.

timbo | 23.08.23 - 7:48 a.m. | #

Thank you for your explanation of why LEZ signs were placed at great expense in tiny cul-de-sacs, there are a number of them between Worcester Park and the A3 by New Malden. This lack of common sense has always irritated me.

In Cheam they have added a new sign just for ULEZ for the Park Road cul-de-sac, as well as replacing the existing sign on the other side of the road. More street clutter as well as the unnecessary cost.

Ken | 23.08.23 - 8:13 a.m. | #

THC is dead right. Dear old Epping Forest DC owns many sins, but not Highways.
And who in ECC is responsible for that?
None other than the elected councillor for that roundabout leading to Amanda Close, highways cabinet member and ex-MP, Lee Scott!

Crispy | 23.08.23 - 8:21 a.m. | #

The photo of Amanda Close is a perfect summary of how Epping Forest DC and/or Essex CC have done a dreadful job with road repairs for decades now.

The roads in Debden where my parents live have been shocking since I was a child and I am now in my mid 30s.

Charlie | 23.08.23 - 8:23 a.m. | #

Can the residents of Tilney Drive and other similar roads get away with not paying the ULEZ fee if the only signage on their street is an old LEZ one?

ap | 23.08.23 - 9:05 a.m. | #

If the GLA and home county Councils engaged with the ULEZ expansion a bit more positively, perhaps all this could have been avoided.

Anon | 23.08.23 - 9:30 a.m. | #

Good to see all the cameras are in even if the signage isn’t quite up to speed.

Peter | 23.08.23 - 10:21 a.m. | #

I live in a ULEZ cul-de-sac island on the edge of Uxbridge with a non-ULEZ main road at the end, and was amazed when TfL put up a camera to monitor a dozen or so houses. They obviously don't want to leave any loopholes, but it's ended up definitely looking vindictive given the opposition of the local council (who might of course have been able to get a more sensible boundary if they had engaged positively with the Mayor). It also results in resident's parking bays being split in/out, and non-compliant delivery vehicles will end up parking on the main road.
Initially I thought it might result in loads of more-polluting vehicles chugging past the end of our road, but actually that's unlikely as they can't get anywhere useful that isn't reached more easily by staying further out of London.

Andrew S | 23.08.23 - 10:28 a.m. | #

Interesting examples. I plan a little wander around the Crayford (London) Dartford (Kent) boundary, as it's quite messy, and I'm not sure OSM is entirely right.

Mikey C | 23.08.23 - 10:45 a.m. | #

People who spend hours walking along main roads would be glad of anything to cut emissions.

Toby | 23.08.23 - 2:00 p.m. | #

The photo of Malden Junction, in particular the road sign, suggests that the westbound A3 is not subject to ULEZ. What happens when the road passes across the Chessington salient?

dg writes: The A3 forms a ULEZ-free corridor.

Roger Smith | 23.08.23 - 7:42 p.m. | #











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