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The morning one also goes into the low-level platforms at Willesden Jct (Bakerloo / Watford platforms). I've also taken it but I still can't get my head around all the tracks in that area...
John | 09.11.17 - 8:12 a.m. | #
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"whereas the previous workhorses had three"
The previous Sprinters were only ever two-car, and I believe the trains before that too. The Turbostars are in fact longer (23m per carriage vs 20m for the Sprinters, and no space used by the toilet).
dg writes: Updated, thanks.
Graham | 09.11.17 - 8:12 a.m. | #
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I am genuinely impressed with your reporting of this. I usually pass over your more geeky train stuff but this was gripping.
b | 09.11.17 - 9:17 a.m. | #
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According to National Rail website, the 1719 from South Tottenham arrives at Gospel Oak at 1739. So how can it form the 1735 service from Gospel Oak to Barking?
shirokazan | 09.11.17 - 9:37 a.m. | #
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I cannot recall more than two - although did Cricklewood ever operate the route with 4 car DMUs, this was when it ran as Kentish Town - Barking.
Still anon | 09.11.17 - 9:42 a.m. | #
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Just two small points about the morning PIXC-buster. Geoff's video states that the "sitting in the siding for a bit" happens after Kensal Rise, so that would be after (not before) "all the other stations". And although Geoff does indeed say that it is waiting "in the siding", I find that improbable, as reversing with passengers on board is normally avoided.
Malcolm | 09.11.17 - 9:53 a.m. | #
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@Still anon - I recall 4-car trains back in the 1970s, and 3-car in Network South east days (cast-offs from the Paddington suburban lines). 2-car trains came in only after privatisation.
@Malcolm - it's not a dead end siding but more of a passing loop: actually a spur connecting the North London line to the Low level platforms at Willesden Junction. The train has to wait on the spur for a gap in the Wat-Eus/Bakerloo service.
@shirokazan - that's probably the padding in the public timetable: the timetable shows 9 minutes from Upper Holloway to Gospel Oak, but only four in the other direction.
DG: how did you catch the 1728 from Gospel Oak if the incoming train has to wait outside GO station for the 1728 to leave? Did you jump ship at Upper Holloway?
timbo | 09.11.17 - 10:11 a.m. | #
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I forgot to say that I too found this a fascinating post. I particularly like the "pixies and goblins" title.
Malcolm | 09.11.17 - 10:13 a.m. | #
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Here's an in cab video of the route
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/926177107427782657
Tony | 09.11.17 - 10:49 a.m. | #
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They did have two car DMUs in BR days, this was when they still had Stock Car Racing at Harringay Stadium, you could see the trains from the stands, it may have been operating from Stratford by then, they also had low density two car in early Network SouthEast days when they had the Capitalcard - the operation might have moved to Old Oak Common or Reading when all the other lines had been electrified (Camden Road - North Woolwich, Romford - Upminster), or passenger services withdrawn (Tottenham Hale - Stratford).
Still anon | 09.11.17 - 11:05 a.m. | #
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In Network South east days the 2 car units were based at Bletchley, from the same pool as the St Albans and Bedford branches that all came under the "North London Lines" division.
Before the "Bedpan" electrification they came from Cricklewood's allocation, as befits a former Midland Railway route.
timbo | 09.11.17 - 11:50 a.m. | #
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If anyone wants to indulge in a little bit of GOBLIN history over train types and lengths then Kevin Lane has this splendid shot at Upper Holloway.
And here's a reminder of diesel NSE days (my shot) at Gospel Oak.
PC | 09.11.17 - 11:54 a.m. | #
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I forgot all about Bletchley.
Still anon | 09.11.17 - 12:02 p.m. | #
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Keep clicking on Kevin's flickr pics and you will soon see more parts of the Overground back in the day plus the wonderful diesel service to Moorgate via the single platform at Kings Cross York Road.
ap | 09.11.17 - 12:20 p.m. | #
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Is there a superfluous apostrophe in thing's'll?
dg writes: Yes there was. I'm delighted someone's still paying attention.
Marc | 09.11.17 - 1:43 p.m. | #
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PC enjoyed the link to the photos, unloading milk at Vauxhall on the Kevin Lane link was unexpected.
As for the shot at Barking on the PC link - the generous deposit of oil between the tracks always added to the ambiance.
Still anon | 09.11.17 - 3:23 p.m. | #
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I am really enjoying this series. Thank you.
gt | 09.11.17 - 8:29 p.m. | #
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I had to go to some meetings in Chiswick last week, so was delighted to be able to use the morning pixie buster to get from Leyton Midland Road (where the member of staff on the platform has no PA, so just has to shout) to Turnham Green. The only problem is that once you get a certain way along the North London Line, the fares system assumes you've gone via zone 1 and charges accordingly; if I'd taken any other train I could have tapped a pink reader at Gospel Oak, but wasn't able to as I smugly glided past...
(TfL were happy to refund the difference, but it would be a pain if I had to do that commute daily)
martin | 09.11.17 - 10:01 p.m. | #
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hey that's me! *waves*
isn't there also a 05:20am departure or something ridiculous out of Willesden Jcn platform 2 as well .. ? there used to be ...
Geofftech | 10.11.17 - 12:44 a.m. | #
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