please empty your brain below
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Beeching style logic!
Southern Heights (Light Railway) | 17.06.22 - 7:13 a.m. | #
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Which of the central branches of the northern line should be culled?
I think the decision would come down to which branch went to the most marginally tory constituency rather than on anything so reasonable as passenger usage.
Ian | 17.06.22 - 7:42 a.m. | #
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How brave of you to propose Croxley as an early candidate for closure.
Taking the wider picture, be very careful - the Transport Secretary might well jump at such a reasoned, straightforward analysis and go for the cuts.
Petras409 | 17.06.22 - 7:52 a.m. | #
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Closing the West Ruislip branch and both Uxbridge branches could cost the local MP - one Boris Johnson - enough votes to lose the seat. Worth a try then......
However, the removal of the Chesham and Watford branches could lose the right hand branch at Harrow enough passengers to tip the balance in favour of the Uxbridge branch
Timbo | 17.06.22 - 8:14 a.m. | #
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Don't give the bastards ideas! They're already about to destroy the whole bus network in central London.
Matt | 17.06.22 - 8:29 a.m. | #
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TfL should just concentrate their services to GLA area.
John G | 17.06.22 - 9:06 a.m. | #
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They could move Moor Park into zone 7 instead of being in both zone 6&7 to raise a little extra revenue. The residents of Moor park can certainly afford it.
Mike | 17.06.22 - 9:17 a.m. | #
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Politics will come into any chopping
1. Kensington Olympia - Marginal seat
2. Chesham - Former tory stronghold
4. Amersham - see 2
5. Watford - Key marginal
6. BPS - paid for by friends of the party
Shapps will ask you what no.7 is
Sadiq will note 2,4 and 5 don't get to vote for him so they will be on his list
Mike | 17.06.22 - 9:30 a.m. | #
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Elephant in the room...Night Tube. Would likely resolve any training and recruitment gaps for a few years as well.
And: Heathrow is well served by Express and Elizabeth line and buses, so make the end of the Picc a permanent bustitution
MilesT | 17.06.22 - 9:32 a.m. | #
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Richmond is so committed to the LibDems now that it clearly makes sense to stop sending both the District Line and the Overground to that terminus. A policy Shapps and Khan could agree on!
Philip | 17.06.22 - 9:56 a.m. | #
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So difficult to predict travel demand. Back in the early 1990s London Underground passenger were at a post war low, Greater London population had dropped by 2 million from over 8 million in 1940 and London Transport was working through plans for line closures and in particular weekend closures. Little was enacted.
In 1994 the Epping to Ongar section of the Central Line was closed along with the Aldwych Branch. That was it; London's population was already growing again and then politicians changed.
Rod | 17.06.22 - 10:04 a.m. | #
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Depressing times.
Cornish Cockney | 17.06.22 - 11:06 a.m. | #
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Unfortunately, this is probably an overestimate to how much DfT cares
Tom | 17.06.22 - 11:17 a.m. | #
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As several commenters have already alluded to, political considerations will come into this decision. Could you draw up a spreadsheet with your proposals showing the Tory majority for each constituency which is served by your suggested closures? And Labour majorities (Oh alright, and Lib Dem). Please. Or are you going to leave it to Grant Shapp's SPAD?
south london lad | 17.06.22 - 11:28 a.m. | #
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Sell the Metropolitan Line past Harrow to Watford and Bucks to Network Rail, and run National Rail trains to Marylebone. I’m sure the Tories will be proud to have GBR run to additional stations in their early tenure, while it would be a saving for TFL. Win, win
shtick | 17.06.22 - 11:51 a.m. | #
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As Harrow Council has just gone Tory an easy decision there for Sadiq.
Marmaduke Jinks | 17.06.22 - 11:57 a.m. | #
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I agree with many of the above that you are sinning by giving wrong people wrong ideas at the wrong time.
Patrickov | 17.06.22 - 1:09 p.m. | #
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Lib-Dem strongholds are already poorly served by the Tube. Although the LDs have three MPs in London, the total number of Tube stations serving LD constituencies doubled (to four) when they won Chesham & Amersham. As for boroughs, neither Kingston nor Sutton have any Tube stations (or any other TfL services except buses and two tram stops)
Timbo | 17.06.22 - 2:27 p.m. | #
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Of course Mill Hill East is really a turnback siding, rather than a branch. And by that logic, so is Chesham. And Battersea Power Station isn't that much more. Keep going a bit further and we can restore the cuts one by one - with all the logical rigour the list had to begin with.
marek | 17.06.22 - 6:52 p.m. | #
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Timbo - Chalfont & Latimer is in Chesham & Amersham too.
Si | 17.06.22 - 10:57 p.m. | #
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I have a better plan, and it involves [redacted] Grant Shapps right up the [redcated], then leave him [redacted] with all the other MPs from his [redacted] party. I don't care if this is anatomically improbable.
Al__S | 18.06.22 - 8:03 a.m. | #
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I suspect that the Wimbledon MP Stephen Hammond might fight against changes on his branch, with JUST 16m journeys, given his majority was just 628 votes!
AndrewR | 19.06.22 - 1:11 a.m. | #
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