please empty your brain below
You don't get much for £80 million these days!

Ken | 15.10.23 - 7:29 a.m. | #

Is it right that even the “significant option” doesn’t link up all the platforms?

There doesn’t seem to be much planned change to the subterranean mystery tour to access platforms 11 and 12.

Dan | 15.10.23 - 8:25 a.m. | #

Plenty of cash being redistributed from scrapping HS2 Northern Stage...

I'd put money on bids being made by your local council for this to be funded from savings there, and I'm not a betting person.

dg writes: London is excluded from plans to redistribute HS2 money.

Blue Witch | 15.10.23 - 9:14 a.m. | #

The low cost 'fiddling about' will be the favoured option, because its difficult politically to be spending more money in London and the South East on 'another' rail project rather than in the north.

On reflection, localizing the Stratford - North Woolwich section of the NLL was a mistake as terminating the line at Stratford just added more interchange traffic, imagine the drop in this traffic if the NLL trains were using the low level platforms instead of the DLR.

Still Anon | 15.10.23 - 9:42 a.m. | #

This if the kind of content I come here for, thanks

Pincinator | 15.10.23 - 10:06 a.m. | #

Lengthening platform 10a to relieve pressure on platform 10 would do a lot for passenger safety, separating arriving long distance passengers from departing ones.

Malcolm of Kent | 15.10.23 - 12:08 p.m. | #

I have another idea: further extend the Jubilee over the NLL to Dalston or even Highbury and Islington so as to keep Stratford through. Make the WLL a real outer circle by diverting them onto ELL nack to Clapham Junction (they will reverse there so no harm!), and the NLL can take over New Cross terminators and / or supplement Crystal Palace services.

Patrickov | 15.10.23 - 12:38 p.m. | #

Burying/realigning the DLR Stratford International branch would make things rather easier. Its tracks are in the way of everything, and one pathetic escalator - often out of service - links the Jubilee platforms to the main exit over it. Horrible experience. Unclear if any of these plans do anything about that.

And all the subways are too narrow. And Platform 10a is like some mystery quest to get to.

Conversely there's lots of circulating space directly outside the main entrance, often in thrall to megaphoned preachers of assorted religions and denominations. Hopefully that can be incorporated into any plans.

yeoldemother | 15.10.23 - 12:40 p.m. | #

Thanks for linking the tweet!

The challenge at Stratford is the number of people interchanging between various modes (rather than entering/leaving the station) - and therefore who pays for a rebuild is a wider issue...!

James Scantlebury | 15.10.23 - 12:52 p.m. | #

"dg writes: London is excluded from plans to redistribute HS2 money."

Yeah, right. We'll see...

Blue Witch | 15.10.23 - 1:01 p.m. | #

Speculating about where HS2 money will go is pointless. There is none. It was a figleaf of Rishi's imagination.

Malcolm of Kent | 15.10.23 - 2:58 p.m. | #

So no rail link to the north but a London Borough think we should bale them out for their poor foresight and and local problems!

Tones | 15.10.23 - 3:28 p.m. | #

How much would the development potential recoup from the medium or significant options?

dg writes: see page 222

matthieu1221 | 15.10.23 - 3:41 p.m. | #

thanks for unearthing the plans - I'd seen various news stories reporting that there were three schemes but not going into any detail.

I'm not sure that any option makes it less confusing, but if there's more circulation space, that's a start.

Notable that the 'significant option' drawing appears to have the MSG Sphere in it. (Though also Montfitchet has a squiggly underline every time it appears, which seems to be courtesy of their spellchecker)

martin | 15.10.23 - 4:08 p.m. | #

I'm told the reason for the tawdry bus shelters on 9/10 is a drain running under the platform It'll be a novel design of canopy, but very welcome for travellers into Essex.
Perhaps some decent loos could be part of all three solutions?

dg writes: see page 209

Crispy | 15.10.23 - 9:26 p.m. | #

Everyone's getting their crayons out!

mclm | 16.10.23 - 5:18 a.m. | #

It continues to surprise that someone so keen on attributing ownership of their own pictures doesn’t acknowledge the source of the diagrams taken from the Board paper next to them explicitly.

Messiah | 16.10.23 - 6:51 a.m. | #

Do not underestimate how much say Westfield will have in the outcome of this redevelopment - they will want what is best for their shoppers and their profits.

Boris | 17.10.23 - 7:38 a.m. | #











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