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It can be quite hard to go directly into a 7, so you might need to go through at least some of 1-5 to get there, as for 6 - this can stop a 4, 'so how would change things...', this can lead to 8, 9 and 10.
Still Anon | 23.05.18 - 7:18 a.m. | #
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"So I said, so she said..."
In my observation, this is frequently rendered as "I was like, and she was like..."
shirokazan | 23.05.18 - 8:09 a.m. | #
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It’s an astonishing feat of memory to recall word-for-word an entire conversation. I’m impressed!
Dan | 23.05.18 - 8:16 a.m. | #
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Generally people don't recall, they reconstruct, and in doing so embellish, refine or redraft!
Brian | 23.05.18 - 8:23 a.m. | #
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So what's the conversion rate between the Conversational Hierarchy and the Comment Value Hierarchy?
Medford | 23.05.18 - 8:26 a.m. | #
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If I ever overhear a No 1 conversation between a smart person and a thick person, I often feel that I could transform it into a No.10 by intervening myself. Bit risky though.
J woolf | 23.05.18 - 8:46 a.m. | #
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I had an exchange of words with someone yesterday that I would describe as 'Glancing'. On the face of it, it was an exchange of pleasantries except, I didn't need to engage in this exchange but felt there was something about the other person that may have been cause for alarm. The words exchanged were a cover for both of us to check out the other...friend or foe sort of thing.
B | 23.05.18 - 8:48 a.m. | #
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“Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.” Attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt.
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"So I said, so she said..."
is 'enhanced' in this geographical area by "...and she turned round and said..." and "...so I turned round and said..."
When caught by recounts by such people I zone out, and eventually sigh deeply and say, "Weren't you all dizzy by then?" Not once has anyone understood what I'm pointing out.
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Where do professional 'counselling' type relationships fit in the hierarchy?
Blue Witch | 23.05.18 - 9:18 a.m. | #
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3- Recollection (sorry!): Assuming I've forgotten my earphones, the only conversations I hear (at least in a language I understand) is when I'm on a bus when the schools kick out - and even then it's "yoof-speak"!!
Cornish Cockney | 23.05.18 - 10:04 a.m. | #
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I’ve seen the distinction between conversation as catharsis (levels 1–4?) versus conversation as problem-solving (level 5+?) described stereotypically as female-type versus male-type dialogue.
While that is a crude and potentially sexist reduction, I imagine (from my instinctively non-cathartic viewpoint) that it can be helpful to understand when someone is looking not for assistance but for affirmation.
From that perspective, the hierarchy embraced by a determined problem-solver may seem horribly inverted.
HTH :)
Rich G | Homepage | 23.05.18 - 10:45 a.m. | #
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Sybil Fawlty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtIHwbguO4
The worst kind of modern conversational spillover is having to listen to phone drivel especially when trapped in a public space. At least when there are two people conversing you have the small compensation of being able to follow the plot no matter how tedious. Phone drivel both intrudes and frustrates.
drD | Homepage | 23.05.18 - 11:09 a.m. | #
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So i was like going to point out something you'd, like, missed but Shirokazan was like, faster.
Milo | 23.05.18 - 11:26 a.m. | #
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I'm always amazed that people especially on public transport talk about such personal things openly particularly on their mobile phones. Perhaps it's the younger generation who feel the need to verbalise everything out in the open. I did feel for the young men yesterday on the bus who was obviously having a girlfriend problem and was desperately trying to get her to stay with him. So sad!
Tones | 23.05.18 - 12:19 p.m. | #
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Interesting that a comment here defines people as "a smart person" or "a thick person".
Messiah | 23.05.18 - 2:20 p.m. | #
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Putting things in a hierarchy often gives interesting results, as here. But, like any form of labelling, it can be misleading. The contrast between 4 and 6 very much suggests a value judgment, where higher numbers denote a "better" form of conversation. This risks undervaluing the mutual grooming function of so much talk.
A lot of the time, we talk because we have learnt that talking generally makes us feel better, whether or not useful information has been transferred.
And, of course, a move "up" the hierarchy can occur as a conversation proceeds.
Malcolm | 23.05.18 - 3:30 p.m. | #
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I was going home after jury service, and couldn't help hearing the girl in front talking about a court case... The next day there she was in the witness box for the defendant! So I had to write a note to the judge, who turfed us all out, but after a conflab said I could stay as it shouldn't affect the case!!!
Community Minded | 23.05.18 - 6:40 p.m. | #
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In my part of London the conversations tend to be in Polish, Russian or Hindi / Gujarati / Punjabi (can't tell the difference) so I don't even know what category they would fall under.
I have observed a few Indian and eastern European women talking into their phone almost non-stop the entire time the tube is above ground (so about 30 minutes). When the same sort of people are talking in person, each gets roughly 50:50 share of the conversation, but somehow it becomes 95:5 when they do it over the phone, or they are shouting over each other the entire time.
This comment would appear to be rated 3. I could reword it so that it becomes rated 4, but I don't want to put it that way.
John | 24.05.18 - 6:24 a.m. | #
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“So I says to Mable, I says”
Rick | 24.05.18 - 11:21 p.m. | #
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