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I think it’s more than £1.75 to travel even one stop here in Derbyshire. Every single journey I take from my village hits the £3 cap. I fear the day it goes. Before the cap came in it was £3.40 to go 2.1 miles to the next village.
Jim | 13.03.25 - 7:21 a.m. | #
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My twin brother mates lived in that block behind the bus pictured in Limes Farm when we were at school.
The Londis was a Budgens back then. They would sell alcohol to one my friend who looked older than his age.
Limes Farm was so hard to navigate as a kid who didn't know the area well as the majority of it is either the Limes Avenue or Copperfield streets and a lot of the different cul-de-sacs don't have separate names. I only knew that my mates lived in the green block rather than one of the other coloured ones.
Vehicle access is by a single road but there is pedestrian access from pathways leading down to Hainault station.
Limes Farm is also strange in that it's catchment area secondary school is Debden Park in Loughton (my old school) rather than West Hatch in Chigwell (where I went for sixth form).
Charlie | 13.03.25 - 7:31 a.m. | #
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👋 Thanks DG, I’ve got this nagging thought that we did 25 back when you had 70 minutes to complete it, amd not just 62. And that Hugo ( who I was with that day ) went on to do 27 …
… which, i’ve just read is mentioned by CityMonitor!
Geoff | 13.03.25 - 8:12 a.m. | #
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Re Hopper Challenge 2, I wonder what the record would actually be today given the various changes made beyond just the grace period being cut; e.g. TFL 'widening the frequency' of routes and changing & chopping numerous others.
dg writes: much the same, given there are still 50 buses an hour down the Walworth Road, in each direction.
BP | 13.03.25 - 8:38 a.m. | #
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How big is the area of central London where you can get from about the same spot to each cardinal side edge of London on the hopper fare? eg If you can get from bus stop M to just beyond West Drayton and Cheam and Chigwell. It might need the upcoming Superloop routes.
toby | 13.03.25 - 8:38 a.m. | #
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With the hopper fare here in Malaga, currently priced at 42c, you can take as many buses as you like within the hour provided all are different bus numbers. This is intended to stop people going there-and-back for one fare. Of course if more than one bus covers the same route...
Suse | 13.03.25 - 9:29 a.m. | #
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Whimsical fun. And proof, were any needed, that buses are great for the cash-poor, time-rich.
David B | 13.03.25 - 9:35 a.m. | #
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The Hopper fare is useful if you want to get out of London for a walk. For example, I can get from Blackheath all the way to Westerham in Kent, using two buses, within the hour time limit.
John | 13.03.25 - 10:19 a.m. | #
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We've recently got hoppers in Greater Manchester at the slightly less value fare of £2. Although for the next few weeks you have to scan a QR code on your ticket to get it. In a few weeks time, Greater Manchester enters the future by allowing you to TAP ON TO A BUS WITH A CARD!!!!
With the Bee Network and Hoppers, you'll be able to get all the way to Huddersfield if you plan your journey right, as the 184 service crosses the Pennines.
I think it’s more than £1.75 to travel even one stop here in Derbyshire. Every single journey I take from my village hits the £3 cap. I fear the day it goes. Before the cap came in it was £3.40 to go 2.1 miles to the next village.
Jim - you can look up bus fares if you know where to look and how. The cheapest services in Derbyshire will be on the handful of Bee Network services that head into the High Peak.
Andrew Bowden | Homepage | 13.03.25 - 10:35 a.m. | #
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One handy thing is being able to use a bus before and after a tube journey on one hopper ticket, if within the time limit.
It may have been when the time limit was 70 minutes, but I remember taking the bus from South Harefield to Uxbridge, taking the Met to Finchley Road, then taking another bus there on the same hopper ticket as the first bus journey.
Mikey C | 13.03.25 - 10:46 a.m. | #
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A classic DG blogpost! :)
Cornish Cockney | 13.03.25 - 11:54 a.m. | #
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I'm interested in the cheapest price-per-mile bus journey in England. Until December, Stagecoach had a 'hopper' offer which allowed you to take the 905 and then the X5 from Cambridge to Oxford on a single £2 ticket. That offer has since been removed, so you now need two £3 singles to get from Cambridge to Oxford. East-West Rail can't come soon enough!
Ewan James | 13.03.25 - 2:59 p.m. | #
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16p per mile Portsmouth to Chichester on the 700 bus.
Adrian | 13.03.25 - 4:32 p.m. | #
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Stagecoach allows a change of bus to the next leg of route 700 (and maybe even) the following leg(s)* too), so that’s £3 (was £2) from Portsmouth to at least Littlehampton (and maybe to Worthing* and Brighton too).
* Route 700 soon to be split further at Worthing (with the Littlehampton - Worthing ( - Lancing) leg known as 701
Stephen | 14.03.25 - 7:29 a.m. | #
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In Dublin we have a 90 minute fare for two euro (close enough to £1.75) that gives unlimited journeys on bus, tram and train (within commuter zone).
Steve
Steve Conway | 14.03.25 - 9:37 a.m. | #
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It is - just - possible to get from Trafalgar Square to Slough on a hopper fare on a good day. 9 to Hammersmith, H91 to Hounslow West, 81 from there. But it’s a gamble, any bad traffic or significant wait and you’re screwed.
Would be interesting to ‘race’ someone taking the 702 from Victoria (£3) and see who pays the most per mile.
Nick | 14.03.25 - 11:54 a.m. | #
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As a regular user of the H91, and having checked the timetables, I strongly doubt that a triple-Hopper to Slough is possible, even at stupid o'clock when the traffic's light.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 14.03.25 - 12:40 p.m. | #
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Did you know this?
(Apparently not for the bus)
dg writes: yes
Luc | 17.03.25 - 4:00 p.m. | #
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