please empty your brain below
Hadn't considered the multiple buses with multiple doors issue. Generally Cambridge has been designing these a bit better, but only for one bus at a time and for a fleet that is single door. Here's a picture of a part finished one (it's done now):
https://www.cyclestreets.net/location/71103/

Note that at this location the old footway was Shared Use, with the shelter at the back. Cyclists could be riding through the boarding area, so the arrangement is a win for everybody concerned.

Perhaps you should arrange a small "official opening" for the finished Bus Stop M. I bet you'd get plenty of readers. Maybe someone could do a cake?

Al__S | 15.06.16 - 7:26 a.m. | #

It's sad to think that this might the be last ever post on bust stop 'M'. Hoping there's still perhaps another instalment to come at a later date?

Geofftech | 15.06.16 - 7:37 a.m. | #

Thank you for keeping us posted on this sorry saga, it sounds like a textbook example of how not to manage a major upgrade project.

Alex | 15.06.16 - 7:50 a.m. | #

Have you verified the bus stop post is a brand new one - or an existing one from somewhere else?, perhaps being familiar with the old one - you might spot that they've bought the old one back again (it might have a special scratch on it, or the traces of an old sticker).

| 15.06.16 - 7:59 a.m. | #

Am I the only one who is sad that the saga of bus stop M has finally come to an end?

Al | 15.06.16 - 8:47 a.m. | #

It looks as though someone has dumped a mattress in the residential parking access.

Charles | Homepage | 15.06.16 - 8:48 a.m. | #

Love the mattress, gives the street a certain je ne sais quoi.

Well it is France football today ...

Agent Z | 15.06.16 - 8:55 a.m. | #

Brilliant!
Are there enough bell ringers subscribing to DG that we could ring something special at St Mary's to celebrate?

RogerB | 15.06.16 - 9:14 a.m. | #

I don't see why the island couldn't of stayed in one piece with the cars crossing over the island, by having angled kerbs like in this photo.

https://rideaday.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/131.jpg

James | 15.06.16 - 9:22 a.m. | #

At last (maybe?) - hurrah!

Is there any warning for drivers emerging from the archway and about to cross the pavement, the Cycle Superhighway and a bus stop (albeit the gap in the latter)?

John Simmons | 15.06.16 - 9:37 a.m. | #

From what I can see, it seems possible that a blind person could navigate onto the second bus-stop-island and be completely flummoxed by where to proceed safely when a bus arrives - either at the first island or half-way into the first island as the kerbs are dropped between them and do not have textured paving stones on the standing sides.

B | 15.06.16 - 10:11 a.m. | #

About the bollard with no sign, it's not clear what should be on there. A down-right arrow would not be appropriate as that would mean that all traffic must keep right - including bikes. Down-right and down-left arrows together mean pass either side (to go the same place), which would suggest that all traffic is allowed either side.

Where you have a divergence between different routes, where traffic can pass either side of the bollard but goes different places accordingly, having no sign is correct, even though it looks odd. While this cycle lane is not quite the same situation I would guess that the same applies here.

Mark | 15.06.16 - 10:18 a.m. | #

Agree with James - they should have had one continuous island with angled kerbs so that the residents can get in and out (and it's not like that would be a huge amount of traffic). That seems to be a flaw the whole way along - every side road, every opening, however minor, leads to a gap which makes things worse for both pedestrians, for cyclists, for bus users - all to avoid inconveniencing drivers with a small hump in the road.

lockedintheattic | 15.06.16 - 10:22 a.m. | #

A gap for cars to drive through? Well done, Heath Robinson could not have designed or positioned this this any better.

Agent Z | 15.06.16 - 10:25 a.m. | #

@John Simmons
"Is there any warning for drivers emerging from the archway and about to cross the pavement, the Cycle Superhighway and a bus stop (albeit the gap in the latter)? "

A pavement is to be expected when you exit a property onto a road in a city.
The cycle highway is evident to such drivers from the blue tarmac, and I note the strategically positioned cycle symbol as well.

I would imagine that most users of that exit will be familiar with the layout as it is a residential property (and they will presumably have gone in the same way)

timbo | 15.06.16 - 10:30 a.m. | #

@ James

Stepping off a bus onto an unexpected angled kerb would be hazardous, especially when it's dark or icy.

For a blind person it would be disastrous.

Gerry | 15.06.16 - 11:34 a.m. | #

Wot, no bunting, fanfare or Mayoral opening?

Cornish Cockney | 15.06.16 - 11:40 a.m. | #

Have you seen any cyclists using it? Not a single one to be seen in any of your photos.

Jon Combe | 15.06.16 - 12:37 p.m. | #

Ithought you were going to mention the dangerous looking drain covers on the cycle way.

Ian Brooker | 15.06.16 - 12:49 p.m. | #

Hundreds of cyclists use it, but there's tidal flow, with maximum traffic in the evening peak. These are morning photos.

What I didn't show you were the cyclists splashing through the puddles where the bypass doesn't drain properly, and the cyclists unable to get through because two electricity company vans had parked in front of the entrance.

Some of those "drain covers" are BT inspection hatches which used to be on the pavement, and are now in the middle of the cycle superhighway.

diamond geezer | Homepage | 15.06.16 - 12:50 p.m. | #

Those drain covers look lethal for cyclists!

| 15.06.16 - 4:20 p.m. | #

These seem like minor inadequacies compared to Uxbridge Bus Station, where incoming buses are banned for some spurious safety reason so every terminating bus has to squeeze onto one of two previous stops. The wheelchair ramp can rarely reach the pavement, and the back bus generally ends up on the zig-zag lines of a pedestrian crossing.

(and RogerB - I'm up for it, but nothing too complicated please!. I'd be happy covering or plain hunt)

Andrew S | 15.06.16 - 7:19 p.m. | #

A short video on why continuous segregation is needed of bus stop M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTVo-iTIltY

| 15.06.16 - 7:39 p.m. | #

I am a regular cyclist along the Bow Road and hate the new arrangements. I have never had to cycle so dangerously close to pedestrians and other cyclists, using a really tiny space to get from A to B.

The pedestrians often dither and seem uncertain, or walk dangerously close to the cycle lane - or even stand in it, as you have illustrated. It is not their fault, the arrangements are really unclear and now cyclists AND pedestrians have to face an extra layer of possible conflict.

I notice that the drivers' road surface is lovely and smooth, newly resurfaced, whereas the CS2 is bumpy and crap. Hah.

The other cyclists of all abilities and speeds are funnelled into a tiny, tiny lane with me, with this crap surface and seriously unforgiving kerbs.

I really miss my previous commute along the exact same stretch of road which took me far less time and without all these extra horrors!

Spoquey | 15.06.16 - 7:54 p.m. | #

Folks, don't fret. There is no way that this is the end of 'M' saga.
Sadly, I can't help but think there is going to be an accident of some sort fairly quickly.
I genuinely hope it is a warning type incident rather than a serious one.

Chris | Homepage | 15.06.16 - 8:34 p.m. | #

A recent phenomenon I've seen at another bus stop with similar "hump" arrangements is certain youths cycling really fast over the hump and using it as a ski ramp to jump over the bus stop.

Elshad | 15.06.16 - 9:37 p.m. | #

Good ol' TfL. I can't imagine they have much objection to being paid for the initial design, and then being paid *again* for each of the times they've had to revise it.
Sheesh, the perfect gift that keeps on giving... :(

RogerW | 15.06.16 - 11:25 p.m. | #

Surprisingly the yellow lollypop is correct. Bow to Stratford bit they added blue circles with an arrow to the bottom left. That however is an instruction for all traffic to keep left. Bike Lane boffins then replaced with right and left arrows on blue background. Equally foolish. White blob on yellow lollipop is correct. Signifies obstruction, which the separating island is. Crap design all round though, and will probably be replaced at our cost again in next 3 years on Mayor Khan

Scrumpy | 15.06.16 - 11:28 p.m. | #

But, hey, at least it isn't *us* who are having to pay for it, every time.

Oh :O

We are??? Bugger!!! :(

RogerW | 15.06.16 - 11:30 p.m. | #

@7:59

It may the same pole, but the flag itself looks different - compare the second and third photos: the one shown being carted away had no white band between the red "bus stop" panel and the grey "Bow Church" one.

timbo | 15.06.16 - 11:56 p.m. | #











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