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While Ismay was the chairman of the line, he wasn't the owner - that honour went to one J. P. Morgan (yes, that one). Hearst's vicious attacks on Ismay were at least partly a proxy for his existing feud with Morgan.

john b | Homepage | 14.04.12 - 3:29 a.m. | #

Damn - not Barking and Dagenham then...

swirlythingy | Homepage | 14.04.12 - 3:35 a.m. | #

In my 60+ years of living near Richmond I have never troubled to walk along Ducks Walk!, strolling like most people do on the opposite side of the river.I'll go there this weekend and look at that plaque.

John | 14.04.12 - 8:53 a.m. | #

Thanks DG - hit the spot yet again. I'm planning my own small commemoration by watching Titanic 3D tomorrow on the anniversary of the sinking, but will see if I can visit a grave or two too.

I'm from Southampton which has been somewhat Titanic Central this week, and I'm sad not to have been able to be there - there's what promises to be a great new museum that's just opened there called Sea City Museum, with the external design reminiscent of ships' prows, very similar to the new Titanic Museum in Belfast. I think Southampton would be a rewarding visit for you DG (you've probably done it already though).

Thinking of all those hundreds of people who suffered a freezing and terrifying death 100 years ago - I don't know how I would have behaved.

Stephen Hosking | 14.04.12 - 9:04 a.m. | #

Kenneth More, who played Lightoller in A Night to Remember, was cremated at Putney Vale. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_More

Charles | Homepage | 14.04.12 - 3:31 p.m. | #

Kenneth More, who played Lightoller in A Night to Remember, was cremated at Putney Vale. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_More

Charles | Homepage | 14.04.12 - 3:31 p.m. | #

I know Putney Vale cemetary well as several of my relatives are buried or their ashes buried there. It is big and a long way to walk if you dont drive. There are lots of benches to sit and rest however. Years ago you could enter and exit straight from the road - now you have to go via the Asda roundabout. Always handy for flowers?!

cornishmonkey | 14.04.12 - 3:44 p.m. | #

"At 01:45, lifeboat No. 2 was lowered. 'While it was still at deck level, Lightoller had found the boat occupied by a number of men who, he wrote later, "weren't British, nor of the English-speaking race ... [but of] the broad category known to sailors as 'dagoes'." After he evicted them by threatening them with his revolver, he was unable to find enough women and children to fill the boat and lowered it with only 25 people on board out of a possible capacity of 40."

MichaelM | 14.04.12 - 3:59 p.m. | #

I've been seeing quite a bit of the A3, lately, as a result of regular trips between Bromley and Cobham, and I'd noticed the long, high wall near Asda's. I'd guessed it was a cemetery / crematorium - possibly one worth a visit - so thanks for confirming my hunch.

RogerW | 14.04.12 - 4:23 p.m. | #

My father (who was never famous though deserved to be), knowing that he would end up at Mortlake Crematorium, used to point out that it was appropriately next to the Council rubbish tip and recycling centre.

Bob Lindsay-Smith | 14.04.12 - 11:41 p.m. | #

Thank you. Most interesting info here.

None | 15.04.12 - 11:42 a.m. | #

Incredibly the Titanic did have more than the bare legal minimum lifeboats.

It is interesting that you classify Ismay as crew but in what sense was he a crew member? I personally would classify him as a passenger. It is often suggested here lies the conflict of interest. Did he have some kind of assumed authority, possibly unspoken, over the captain?

Pedantic of Purley | 15.04.12 - 12:21 p.m. | #

Ismay could have dismissed the Captain in mid ocean, although clearly this is neither wise nor just. From the perspective of 100 years it seems more likely that Ismay was simply a passenger, although not a fare paying one.

Richard | Homepage | 16.04.12 - 10:16 a.m. | #











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