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Could you make up some passenger conversations?
Sarah | Homepage | 22.03.20 - 7:28 a.m. | #
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Yes it’s the observations of human behaviour that make these trips so readable - without them they are not quite the same.
Kutgw | 22.03.20 - 7:38 a.m. | #
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Unnecessary travel? - just tell us you were looking for toilet paper, entirely plausible excuse nowadays.
Still Anon | 22.03.20 - 7:44 a.m. | #
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Guys, he's written a full length article from the top of his head, can we perhaps stop the nitpicking?
Doktorb | 22.03.20 - 7:45 a.m. | #
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Having waited for your first virtual post (no doubt that you had to fit it into your diary), I trust that your first post after restrictions are lifted will be a real ride on this route.
Young child: Mum, what's that man doing who's sitting in the front seat.
Mum: Don't be silly darling, it's empty. There's no such thing as ghosts.
Route 404: Error (Brilliant!)
Ken | 22.03.20 - 7:50 a.m. | #
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Completely forgot this wasn't real about half way through! Excellent stuff.
Some local knowledge for you though - The Waitrose in the quarry is just a distribution centre and not an actual supermarket.
dg writes: updated, thanks.
BP | 22.03.20 - 8:01 a.m. | #
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Well, I did enjoy that ride out with you, DG. Not a bus I've been on but I have been to quite a few of the locations - The Fox, especially! 👍🏻 I am looking forward to accompanying you on another ride out soon. 😉
Jo W | 22.03.20 - 8:20 a.m. | #
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Nice write up of my local bus route!
It's always a friendly service where everyone seems to knows each other.
I've tried walking to the top of the Cane Hill estate and it is quite a climb, so sure the extended bus service will be welcome.
Paul | Homepage | 22.03.20 - 8:41 a.m. | #
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Well done. I like it.
For the sake of super clarity, even though everyone doubtless understood anyway, double running could be defined as using the same road in both directions /within a single end-to-end trip/.
Malcolm | 22.03.20 - 8:56 a.m. | #
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Streetview lets you change the date (where multiple views exist) by clicking the clock symbol in the position box, top left and picking a different point on the time slider. Click in the new view. This shows that The village Inn changed to the Caterham Arms sometime between 2012 & 2014
fred | 22.03.20 - 8:57 a.m. | #
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Well done DG, a whole world recreated from Bow. Great stuff. We’ need you.
Pampercy | 22.03.20 - 9:03 a.m. | #
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Oh how I loved this post. I do hope that eventually you will actually have a ride on the 404 and see how close you were to getting it right.
The 'bus' lane on the by-pass always amuses me. It is actually a bus and other large vehicles lane and the real intention is to deprioritise private cars coming into London from the M23/M25. I imagine it has to be designated bus lane with other hangers-on to be compliant with the road sign rules.
On a technicality, it is surprisingly often used by other bus routes due to closures of surrounding roads which happens more often than one might think. So this might be the first time it is used by a bus on a scheduled service but certainly not its first use by buses.
Yesterday I walked to Farthing Down and saw a 404 using the bypass and just assumed, yet again, there was some diversion in use.
It is really surreal and annoying not using buses which are running and I can travel on for free to get to Farthing Down to exercise the dog off-lead. I better get used to it.
Pedantic of Purley | 22.03.20 - 9:09 a.m. | #
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Excellent post DG. I look forward to going back through your posts over the next few months as a reminder of less uncertain times. I hope you and all your readers keep safe and well in these coming months.
IanD | 22.03.20 - 9:10 a.m. | #
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The 404 goes past my Grandparents former house in Homefield Road.One of the streets in Old Coulsdon, Goodenough Way is named after the Naval officer William Goodenough who lived in Old Coulsdon
Neil | 22.03.20 - 9:29 a.m. | #
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Got my first ever Saturday job at the Waitrose in Coulsdon. They tacked on two hours of Friday evening work as well.
Saturday was marked by the release of safer patients from Cane Hill so that they could have a potter. There were some real characters about. Quite an eye opener for a 16 year old.
10 hours a week at 20p an hour. My total wage packet was £1.98 after NI.
Chris | 22.03.20 - 9:40 a.m. | #
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Bravo DG! What an excellent 'virtual' jounrney.
Hadders | 22.03.20 - 9:48 a.m. | #
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The Waitrose distribution centre mentioned specialises in picking/dispatching home delivery orders for most of London (North and South). Waitrose's first purpose built (possibly still only purpose built) facility of this type, replacing a repurposed John Lewis local delivery depot in Acton (which was demolished for Crossrail).
MilesT | 22.03.20 - 10:13 a.m. | #
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Very imaginative. I'm not sure if I'd like it if this is to be the start of a new series of 'virtual' journeys. But what are we all to do if our travels are now deemed to be unnecessary? Thanks though.
Dave | 22.03.20 - 10:39 a.m. | #
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The TfL route map has not, at the time of writing, been updated, but the realtime information is correct. Consequently buses are shown as calling at stops a long way off route.
timbo | 22.03.20 - 10:57 a.m. | #
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Yay for Streetview and of course DG's ingenuity!
If you hadn't said at the beginning, I wouldn't have realised you weren't physically there!
Lack of passenger conversations? Easily explained by lack of passengers, particularly at this time!
@ fred: thanks for the tip re the different view periods, I didn't know you could do that!
Cornish Cockney | 22.03.20 - 11:04 a.m. | #
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Anyone else of a canal-focused mind about to point out that it should be "Caen Hill" until you saw the photo? Still doesn't look right though!
Andrew S | 22.03.20 - 11:07 a.m. | #
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The Maxicab service from my home estate to the closest MTR station in the direction towards the City is also numbered 404. It runs at least 6 services an hour and is well-used, even at times like this.
I guess a ride on the Caterham 404 itself today would be safe (only DG and the driver), but it's the trip between Bow and Caterham that might pose a risk.
Patrickov | 22.03.20 - 12:58 p.m. | #
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Your resourcefulness is very cheering! Thank you.
Lorraine | 22.03.20 - 1:14 p.m. | #
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Looks like it was a lovely sunny day for it.
Eric | 22.03.20 - 1:42 p.m. | #
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Loved this - thank you!
Peter of London | 22.03.20 - 4:23 p.m. | #
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I was hoping we'd see a virtual travel post! Street view is a fabulous thing, especially when coupled with curiosity for the details. Thanks DG for this - I enjoyed the return to normal service, and reckon virtual excursions are a good way of keeping us all sane.
David | Homepage | 22.03.20 - 4:58 p.m. | #
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What a cracking idea, thanks DG
Ray | 22.03.20 - 7:08 p.m. | #
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If Robert Munster is reading this, I would point out that his timetable shows Old Coulsdon, Tudor Rise, whereas the TfL Stop list correctly shows it as the public house and terminal point of route 60 - Old Coulsdon, Tudor Rose.
Petras409 | 22.03.20 - 10:32 p.m. | #
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I'm currently driving from Lands End to John O Groats in street view (currently approaching Worcester), and while it isn't quite the same as a real road trip it's still not bad, especially in full screen.
RickC | 23.03.20 - 2:48 a.m. | #
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...and there are lots of train journeys on YouTube, The trans-Pennines links are particularly scenic.
RogerB | 23.03.20 - 7:55 a.m. | #
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