please empty your brain below
You know, I was just thinking last night, "I'm not sure I've ever been on the Bakerloo".

Kirk | 02.02.13 - 6:52 a.m. | #

On a slightly pedantic note, the 1972 stock used on the Bakerloo is the oldest on the true Tube lines, but not the oldest on the Underground - the C stock used on the Circle and Hammercity dates from 1970.

dg writes: Noted, thanks.

timbo | 02.02.13 - 7:12 a.m. | #

I am sure that there are peculiarities of all sorts across the Underground. I wonder whether some are more common than others, and whether they are more common on some lines than others. It all comes down to the original topography, of course, that the line was driven through. But there must be a few that are completely singular.

Rick | Homepage | 02.02.13 - 7:25 a.m. | #

Yeah.. try not to hate me too much either, but they don't have 268 passengers seats.

There a 6 seats in a row when the seats are in line with the train, and in either two or three or of the carriages you get the 'facing' arrangement there is a group of 8 instead of the group of 6.

This means where the seats are all straight, you get 36 seats in a train, or 40 in the carriages with the special arrangement.

I can't rememeber if there are three carraiges, or four or the facing/back seats, but it's got to be either:

36+36+36+36+36+40+40 - which is 260 seats, or...

36+36+36+36+40+40+40 - which is 264 seats.

Right, i'm off to get a life now ..

geofftech | Homepage | 02.02.13 - 7:57 a.m. | #

According to TfL's own information there are three cars in each set with 36 seats: the unpowered or trailer cars. The other four have 40. Which makes 268.
If you're looking for the transverse seats, the cars which have them (the powered cars) are those with driving cabs (the car at each end, plus the one in the middle of the train), plus the "UNDM" car coupled to the end of the middle car that has the redundant driving cab.

| 02.02.13 - 10:16 a.m. | #

@ Geofftech - this link

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/foi/Rolling_stock_Data_Sheet_2nd_Edition.pdf

might help. These are the official rolling stock info sheets and show formations and seat layouts.

PC | 02.02.13 - 10:22 a.m. | #

Don't forget The Bakerloo Flea, a children's book about a giant flea on the Bakerloo Line when it still ran to Stanmore.
I seem to remember the flea was finally caught when the local council placed a dustcart at the mouth of the tunnel at Finchley Road station.

Tetramesh | Homepage | 02.02.13 - 1:30 p.m. | #

Unlike Kirk (post 1) there was a time when I seemed to spend a lot of my life on the Bakerloo (1965-ish). As my handle indicates it is not surprising. What I loved was the club atmosphere at Piccadilly late in the evening as people returned from the shows, clubs, etc, to their bedsits in Harlesden or Mum and Dad in Queens Park.

When you are alone in London, such scenes are a comfort. (see the highest station use after 2200).

HowardGWR | 02.02.13 - 6:37 p.m. | #

The Willie Rushton song Neasden features the song about taking the Bakerloo which would be confusing for people these days given the route change. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsLa-KfO7m0

Rick | 03.02.13 - 1:22 a.m. | #

As Timbo and Geofftech have already set a pedantic note could I point out that the author of 253 is Geoff Ryman not Ryan, (though Mr Ryman also got the number of seats on a Bakerloo line train wrong!)

Anyway I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with to talk about the Bakerloo line as it's arguably one of the duller Underground Lines - and I don't think there are even any disused stations to explore.

Whiff | 03.02.13 - 3:49 a.m. | #

I remember reading the Bakerloo Flea book as mentioned by Tetramesh. It is why the first time I went to london in my teens I wanted to make sure I went on that line.

Barry | 03.02.13 - 10:54 a.m. | #











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