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I hadn't realised they'd admitted quite so few patients, but it's good to know that at least one part of the plan functioned properly.
I thought the arch over the entrance was an LED screen (now switched off).
dg writes: Updated, thanks.
Also, were no doctors expected to work there?
martin | 22.06.20 - 7:08 a.m. | #
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This trip looks like it's significantly enlarged your quarantine box!
martin | 22.06.20 - 7:13 a.m. | #
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Why are lifts on the Royal Victoria Foot Bridge so often out of service? Sad that the map has to explain they are "not working".
Awaiting an answer | 22.06.20 - 8:11 a.m. | #
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Martin - I looked at DG's photograph and was sure the arch was too thin to be an LED screen. But obviously I was wrong. Here's a YouTube video of it in non-NHS mode.
I did wonder why they would have removed the vinyl but leave that poster in the display case!
Does seem very odd that TfL would pop along to put up face covering signs. But no doubt the people doing the work were just given a list of stops, of which they were on. I guess TfL aren't used to regularly dealing with bus stops that suddenly have no service. Perhaps they could learn from Transport for Greater Manchester who have many bus stops - some with bus shelters - emblazoned with NOT IN USE. Such are the vagaries of non-London public transport where whole neighbourhoods can lose their bus service at the drop of a hat.
Andrew Bowden | Homepage | 22.06.20 - 8:11 a.m. | #
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Filing this post away as something in year will inevitably pop up in this years London Reconnections Christmas Quiz.
andy c | 22.06.20 - 8:32 a.m. | #
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If the Nightingales had been used, along with all other (temporarily and permanently) disused buildings, to isolate infected patients in the traditional manner, rather than confining them in hospitals and care homes, concentrating risk to the detriment of staff, patients and medical aid to those suffering from other illnesses, many, many lives would have been saved.
Why should I be pleased that the Nightingales were not 'needed'?
E8 | 22.06.20 - 8:50 a.m. | #
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Funnily enough, at least one Nightingale is still running. It's in Manchester and was set up differently. London was setup to provide intensive care like operation, whereas Manchester is running as a place where people go to recover from Covid-19 after intensive care.
Instead of sending people to care homes or hospital wards, they send them to the Nightingale.
Don't know if they have a bus stop though.
Andrew Bowden | Homepage | 22.06.20 - 8:55 a.m. | #
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A relative of mine works in a London hospital. They said the problem with the London Nightingale Hospital was that every time a hospital referred a patient to Nightingale, the referring hospital also had to transfer a member of medical staff to the Nightingale too.
So London hospitals had a massive disincentive to refer patients there as they've be worse off rather than better.
Jon Jones | 22.06.20 - 9:00 a.m. | #
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There are also new bus stops at the other ends of routes 1 and 3, where I spent many a happy hour dressed in a bright pink hi-vi. The majority of the people using the service were construction workers on route 1, but we did get a few members of NHS staff from the hotels and, on one memorable occasion, a full bus!
Route 2 was pretty much a duplicate of route 3, terminating one stop earlier, at the 3 on the left (on the map), which was a two minute walk from the 3 on the right. The map also doesn't display that due to road connections and a low bridge both routes had to do a lap of the two roundabouts above in each direction in order to get to the hotels. It was quicker to walk to the eastern entrance, but the scrubs block was at the western entrance, hence the bus routes.
Sally | 22.06.20 - 9:06 a.m. | #
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Interesting post, thank you.
To me a 'second wave' is a high risk, so hopefully the Nightingales will still be available.
J. | 22.06.20 - 9:37 a.m. | #
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I do hope your blog is suitably backed up somewhere for long term preservation DG. Posts like this will be invaluable to future historians who want to build up a picture of life on the ground during the pandemic.
James Armitage | Homepage | 22.06.20 - 10:04 a.m. | #
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Andy C,
Post has been duly noted. Whether a question will emerge from it that makes the quiz or not, I cannot yet say.
I suspect rather a lot of questions will be coronavirus related.
Pedantic of Purley | 22.06.20 - 11:00 a.m. | #
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Fascinating! Just shows what can be done when needs be.
I fear the promised 40 new hospitals and 40,000 new nurses won't be delivered with such timely efficiency!
Cornish Cockney | 22.06.20 - 11:30 a.m. | #
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Jon Jones - providing help whilst enforcing conditions that encourage the hospitals not to use it - Sir Humphrey would be proud (although some enterprising hospital administrator would be looking at what's defined as 'medical staff') (although the Nightingale's were a sensible precaution rather than being in the St. Andrews category)
Still Anon | 22.06.20 - 11:31 a.m. | #
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Interesting to note that the Nightingale hospitals were largely setup by the Army Logistics Corp, which is why they appeared so quickly and effectively. Running them was the job of the NHS. Read into that what you will.
Jimbo | 22.06.20 - 11:36 a.m. | #
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speaking of buses ... have you noticed that some double deckers have a sign on the front door saying maximum 20 passengers ...
dg writes: yes
ADS | Homepage | 22.06.20 - 3:04 p.m. | #
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Even if the Nightingales are never used in earnest (which we should all hope is the case) I don't think I will ever regard them as a waste of resources - more an important contingency plan built based on imperfect information that thankfully wasn't ultimately needed.
Chris | 22.06.20 - 3:59 p.m. | #
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Chris - The government were in a no-win situation. If they didn't build the hospitals, they'd be accused of not taking the situation seriously and not doing enough with accusations that deaths were due to not enough beds. If they did build them and they don't get used they get blamed for wasting money.
In an unprecedented situation you'll never have all the informtion (You don't know what information you need for one thing!) so you have to guess and sometimes your guess will be wrong.
With hindsight, your naysayers can savage you for making the obvious wrong decision. That's the beauty of being in opposition: You get to make lots of complaints about what the government are doing knowing that your claims are highly unlikely to be tested.
Jon Jones | 22.06.20 - 9:35 p.m. | #
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"That was thankfully never needed". Are you sure about that. There is a second wave on the way. It's already reached other countries, like Germany, China and some parts of America. In my opinion, this pandemic is far from over. Hope I'm wrong.
Frankie Galway | 22.06.20 - 11:43 p.m. | #
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This prime minister is always keen on big, attention seeking initiatives - think garden bridges, funny buses and esturial airports. Conversely, schools were not allowed to expand their lockdown capacity by putting marquees in the playground or renting village halls.
ActonMan | 23.06.20 - 12:02 p.m. | #
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Insurance is usually something you pay a lot of money for in the hope that you never have to use it.
At least the Nightingales were / are available should the need arise. It was the right decision for the government to make. Unfortunately, given the state that the NHS was in before the CV started adding to their problems, everything else is let down by how this and previous governments have looked after the NHS in the past.
rogmi | 23.06.20 - 12:39 p.m. | #
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