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Wonderful!
That was the worst section of the entire London Thames Path.
Cody Dock path and the remaining Leaway next please!
Dan | 21.06.18 - 7:10 a.m. | #
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Perhaps "peninsular" is being used here as an adjective, in the same manner as you might see in "Greenwich North". That said, I suspect error. How many signs use that form?
dg writes: All the new ones.
Andrew | 21.06.18 - 7:59 a.m. | #
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Good news, I had no idea that this work was being done - I walked this section of the Thames Path a month ago.
I wonder if the Capital Ring will be diverted this way too, it surely makes more sense for it to pass the Thames Barrier en route, rather than having it as an optional "to and fro" extra?
Mikey C | 21.06.18 - 8:41 a.m. | #
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Indications of priority are important where practicable - though even when they do exist they are often ignored by cyclists and walkers alike!
Bob L-S | 21.06.18 - 9:53 a.m. | #
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I can assure you that us spelling fascists (that description will ensure a typo in this post) pointed out the Peninsular nonsense to the Royal Borough....to no avail of course.
Phew! Made it without an eror!
Chris | 21.06.18 - 11:32 a.m. | #
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at least on DG's blog I can relax in the companionship of fellow "spelling fascists" as Chris describes us ... recently (not on this blog thankfully) I've seen "except" instead of "accept" and "encase" instead of "in case" ... oh dear
Caz | 21.06.18 - 11:42 a.m. | #
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I wonder if Mellish Industrial Estate has ever been nicknamed "Hellish Industrial Estate".
Just a thought.
drD | Homepage | 21.06.18 - 11:46 a.m. | #
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re: "Saucy" - was he late for the recent World Naked Bike Ride?
David | 21.06.18 - 11:48 a.m. | #
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It is one thing for a real estate development to be called "Greenwich Peninsular" (however stupid that looks; compare "Midtown"). It is quite another for generic signs to direct you towards "Greenwich Peninsular", meaning the peninsula.
The peculiar, exaggeratedly rhotic (almost piratical, "arr") construction "the Greenwich peninsular" is surprisingly common. Even the The Independent and (horror) the BBC have done it (the BBC is a repeat offender over many years).
O tempora.
Andrew | 21.06.18 - 12:28 p.m. | #
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Meanwhile the official TfL guide to the Quietways describes Q14 only between Southwark and Canada Water. [map]
Nothing on the site that I can find about Canada Water to Woolwich and beyond.
Might take that route home tonight and see where it leads.
Alan BG | 21.06.18 - 1:16 p.m. | #
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As a Greenwich resident and having had to deal with Greenwich Council on many occasions "Peninsular" does not surprise.
tintinhaddock | 21.06.18 - 1:25 p.m. | #
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Full opening update from Darryl:
https://charltonchampion.co.uk/2018/06/21/thames-path-missing-link-is-launched-with-council-hoping-to-open-it-all-night
"A Greenwich Council spokesperson told The Charlton Champion that signs directing users to “Greenwich Peninsular” would be corrected."
diamond geezer | Homepage | 21.06.18 - 4:19 p.m. | #
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I'm pleased this is open, as the alternative was very tedious (I once got into the industrial estate thinking I'd found a shortcut, only to get to the other end with no exit, so had to turn round and come all the way back out again...). It's not the most scenic, of course (I much prefer the Thames Path when it's, er, by the Thames), but you can't have everything, and I'll go and try it out soon.
Now - for the bit that causes the massive detour from Pepys Park to Twinkle Park through the council estate! (Am not holding my breath.)
mightymouse | 21.06.18 - 6:10 p.m. | #
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'Peninsular Greenwich' might have passed, but painting over or picking off the final '-r' is probably easier (more easy?)
ActonMan | 21.06.18 - 6:36 p.m. | #
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Do you know whether any of that is the housing estate that was built on the site of the Harland and Wolff shipyard (where Chertsey was built in 1937)?
Sarah | Homepage | 21.06.18 - 6:49 p.m. | #
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The signs also refer to, with little fanfare (unlike Q14), NCN1.
It's quite amusing how little London cares about the National Cycle Network (which is threadbare through the capital as they can't be bothered to ask for national route numbers) and how little Sustrans cares about London with their map showing hardly any of the London Cycle Network (not even all the superhighways) and referring to most of it as 'link to NCNx' or 'local route'. You'd have hoped that the two organisations would co-ordinate more!
Si | 21.06.18 - 9:03 p.m. | #
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@si
Look at the junction of CS6 and NCN4 at the south end of Blackfriars Bridge. Impossible to switch from one to t'other without either cycling across a pedestrian crossing or running a red light (there being no green phase for that turn)
Also NCNs are signed in miles and LCN in minutes - sometimes on the same signpost.
This has bugger all to do with Woolwich, sorry.
timbo again | Homepage | 21.06.18 - 11:49 p.m. | #
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Hmmm. Cycled along the river from Deptford Creek to the Millennium Bridge this morning. There was NO sign of Q14 anywhere. Lots of NCN4 signs, but no fingerposts and no white paint on any paths, even around Canada Water.
So Greenwich hasn't filled a gap in Q14: the gap still runs all the way from Southwark to Woolwich. It's good that Greenwich has completed a bit of Thames Path and included a cycle route, but Q14 is unfinished.
AlanBG | 22.06.18 - 10:54 a.m. | #
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If anyone is thinking of walking it, don't start further West than the O2, as the river path is still closed (until September) and the inland diversion is awful.
Sven Ellis | 22.06.18 - 12:47 p.m. | #
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Local write-up from From The Murky Depths:
http://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2018/06/22/a-look-at-the-thames-paths-new-section-between-woolwich-and-charlton
diamond geezer | Homepage | 22.06.18 - 6:21 p.m. | #
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I walked the route today and found that someone with blue paint has corrected all the signs and Peninsular is now Peninsula.
LesD | 22.06.18 - 9:47 p.m. | #
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I didn't climb up to check, but I suspect it's blue insulating tape and not quite the same colour. It seems to be cut square unlike paint that would probably not be so sharp edged.
Coming home on the bus I heard a stop distinctly announced as PeninsuLAR Park Road -- and sure enough that's how it's spelt at https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/stop/490010912W/peninsular-park-road -- so it looks like others have made that same mistake before.
dg writes: That's the old name for Greenwich Shopping Park (which is not on the peninsula).
Harrry | 23.06.18 - 10:43 a.m. | #
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[StreetView of ramp location]
Uy Hoang | 27.06.18 - 10:31 a.m. | #
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