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As I write this at 08.01, there’s meant to be a good service on the District and H&C. According to the Bow Road online indicator you have westbound District line trains in 8, 10 and 12 minutes, followed by an H&C train in 15.
Eight minutes for the first train on a good service day. Ouch.
chunderwagon | 18.01.23 - 8:05 a.m. | #
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I read the message on that notice and thought wow, TFL use just that one line for everything. It appears regularly on the ‘next bus due’ site for buses round here, particularly in the mornings before ten.
We have a theory that they all sneak along in the darkness and cannot be spotted. Bloomin’ annoying though!
Jo W | 18.01.23 - 8:18 a.m. | #
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Previously if there'd been an 8 minute gap before the next train, nobody standing on the platform at Bow Road would have realised.
Which is why this is a massive improvement.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 18.01.23 - 8:24 a.m. | #
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A tentative yay!!
Cornish Cockney | 18.01.23 - 9:35 a.m. | #
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I am concerned that your "problem" link suggests it requires a "Canada fix". Is next train information actually controlled by a system that relies on someone the other side of the Atlantic. I hope at least they use remote access, otherwise the call-out charge every time it fails will be considerable.
ap | 18.01.23 - 9:48 a.m. | #
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Back in the day there would have been a switch tucked away somewhere so staff could switch off anything showing incorrect information; they don't seem trusted to do that any more.
Meanwhile out in the wilds at Denham Golf Club station, the screen has been saying that the next train (the 1214 to Gerrards Cross) is delayed by 9 minutes since last October. They seem unable to do anything about it, including switching it off to stop it confusing people.
Andrew S | 18.01.23 - 10:02 a.m. | #
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ap,
Canada is where the software developers are located.
This signalling system is intended to be a worldwide system tailored for each location's needs.
London is a bit of a guinea pig.
Pedantic of Purley | 18.01.23 - 10:11 a.m. | #
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Is the website normally reliable? I've looked at it a couple of times when using the Northern Line and it's been different to what the station displays are saying.
Sarah | Homepage | 18.01.23 - 10:51 a.m. | #
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I'd like to think that at the age of 65 A887 is merely in retirement as opposed to deceased.
Expect to see A887 in a hipster barber shop or themed coffee house soon.
Digger50 | 18.01.23 - 11:16 a.m. | #
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How long before they risk removing the old equipment, or just leave all the cabling in place because they are not sure where it goes after all these years.
Still Anon | 18.01.23 - 11:25 a.m. | #
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Issues in the area were mostly resolved Monday afternoon, but your westbound sign wasn't sorted until this morning - 1130.
Causes of the issues earlier in the week are understood and a fix is on the way.
Andy | 18.01.23 - 11:41 a.m. | #
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Now there’s personal service, thanks.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 18.01.23 - 11:58 a.m. | #
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It really makes a big difference to the passenger having proper information displays when the line isn't just a straightforward A to B shuttle.
For example the indicators at Golders Green before the signalling was replaced just showed the first train, so you had no idea how long you'd have to wait if you wanted a train on the other branch, and thus whether to change at Camden Town or not.
And to make things worse, much of the time the indicator was wrong as well!
Mikey C | 18.01.23 - 2:26 p.m. | #
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Hello,
Long-ago Bow resident (Fairfield Road) and enjoy your blog and all things E3.
I had to drop in to comment that this brings me great joy.
Bow Road was a long-time point of origin for trips around London, and the end of an oftentimes long commute from EC1 - both by Central and District.
Thank you for your diligent service of on-the-ground reporting to keep us abreast of these fantastic details!
Kind regards, London E3-2**
AV | 19.01.23 - 4:23 a.m. | #
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A day later and the online departures are showing the next 14 eastbound and next 12 westbound services. This is good news!
chunderwagon | 19.01.23 - 7:32 a.m. | #
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Also Bow Road will now only be closed for weekend engineering works three times over the next six months, which after years and years of tediously repetitive closures for the signalling upgrade will be a joyful relief.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 19.01.23 - 3:15 p.m. | #
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Many years ago, a correspondent to the Guardian’s “Notes and Queries” column suggested that Countdown at bus stops was really a random number generator that was just occasionally right.
Labourer | 19.01.23 - 8:33 p.m. | #
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In an unusual turnaround, Bow Road minutes are shorter than real minutes. So, for example, a westbound train that’s ‘6 mins’ away actually arrives in 4 minutes.
I need to do some more research into this.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 20.01.23 - 9:52 a.m. | #
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I’d be interested in your comments if the system failure on the district , Hammersmith , circle this evening. Linked to the new automation ?
Reboot reboot!
Bruce Wayne | 23.01.23 - 6:27 p.m. | #
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It seems the failure was on all of the 4 lines H&C, Circle, DIstrict and Metroplitan. So we are probably going through some pain to get these lines fully funtional
SimoP | 24.01.23 - 1:37 p.m. | #
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