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Hope you'll be telling us what they are building on the waterfront - saw those huge piles from the top of Firle Beacon a few weeks ago but couldn't find out what it was.
Deptford Dame | Homepage | 20.03.11 - 8:08 a.m. | #
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Could Newhaven Marine become a useful station, for example if the area was redeveloped? Might be why it won't quite close. The Dover ferry station closed down very easily when the Channel Tunnel opened.
Max Roberts | Homepage | 20.03.11 - 8:19 a.m. | #
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No Max, I don't think so. Even if the old ferry terminal was redeveloped as a massive shopping/entertainment complex, Newhaven Harbour station's only a two minute walk away, plus it's on the mainline rather than a dead-end branch line.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 20.03.11 - 9:04 a.m. | #
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if anyone really wants to hear the Ian Marchant/Radio 4 programme on this (includes this, Stockport to Staylbridge, Ealing Broadway to Wandsworth Common, and an airport station in the north when only one train a day stops), then email me... i have it as an MP3...
geofftech | Homepage | 20.03.11 - 9:12 a.m. | #
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It always does amaze me that keeping these stations open for years and years on end, is actually cheaper than going through the closure process.
I guess in Newhaven Marine's case, it really is because it takes just minutes for the train to pop in to the station and pop out again, before doing a regular service. But then it all still has to be maintained...
Maybe that just says that the closure process is wrong. But then setting up some sort of fasttrack process for services which no one will ever miss, is probably too expensive too...
Andrew Bowden | Homepage | 20.03.11 - 9:51 a.m. | #
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I remember many years ago getting a ferry from Newhaven to Dieppe - it was the route you had to go to get to Paris if you were an impoverished student with a Transalpino ticket.
Veronica | 20.03.11 - 9:56 a.m. | #
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...and if you live in South London, and have plenty of time to get to Newhaven, you could go via the Vanguard Way ('66 miles from the suburbs to the sea') long distance footpath which starts at East Croydon station.
http://www.vanguardway.org.uk
The Red Shadow | 20.03.11 - 12:55 p.m. | #
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Interesting stuff!
The station roof at Newhaven Marine is so dilapidated that even the driver of the ghost train is not allowed to alight onto the platform, (s)he's only allowed to walk through the train to change ends.
The Newhaven area's great for abandoned buildings: just along the line to Seaford is the remains of Bishopstone Beach halt (only the platforms and typical 1930s Southern Railway concrete signs and lampposts remain) which served the abandoned village of Tide Mills. As the name suggests, this was a mill (and associated buildings and dwellings, including the station master's house) powered by the tide flowing in and out of a pool. It was occupied until 1936 but plenty of remains still exist to be explored.
Also at Tide Mills is the remains of Chailey Heritage Marine Hospital, the seaside holiday home of Chailey Heritage (aka 'The Guild Of The Poor Young Things', a school in Sussex for disabled children once attended by Alison Lapper and Ian Dury).
Well worth a visit, lots of interpretation boards to explain it all. I went last year: http://bywaysbyrailway.wordpress.com/2010/04/11/abandonment-on-sea
Oh, and further along the line towards Seaford is Bishopstone station (still open) which must be the only station in the country with a machine gun emplacement on the roof!
Pete | 20.03.11 - 3:40 p.m. | #
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Oh DG, you came to my hometown while I was away for the weekend!
Deptford Dame - those jack-up barges are, apparently, just being stored on the beach. The west beach, the only sandy beach for miles along the coast, has been closed for the last three or four years because the owners won't pay for repairs to the sea wall, and a bit of concrete might fall off and land on someone's head. As of a couple of months ago, they've cut off access to the car park/promenade too.
Tide Mills is wonderful, our very own ghost town; hope DG visited.
Sarah | Homepage | 20.03.11 - 8:17 p.m. | #
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i get the impression that the 20:15 Newhaven Marine to Lewes does NOT stop at any of the intermediate stations. can anyone confirm? so a train that's not in the timetable, but IS for public use, leaves a station that no one can get on at (or buy a ticket from), and travels through stations without stopping and not picking anyone up, and lets no one off at its destination!
when summer comes and it's light - i'll pop down with my video camera...
mp3 link sent to those who requested it...
Geofftech | Homepage | 21.03.11 - 10:51 a.m. | #
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Ho Chi Minh worked as a cook on the Newhaven - Dieppe ferry, yes, really.
Gladys | 22.03.11 - 12:48 a.m. | #
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And, I finally got around to making a video about it ...
Geofftech | Homepage | 02.06.11 - 7:26 a.m. | #
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oh, here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTmumbrKohs
Geofftech | Homepage | 02.06.11 - 7:26 a.m. | #
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The station itself is still used when trains on the Seaford branch need turning round short of Seaford i.e when there is late running. Train drivers have to drive over their routes (no matter how short) once every 6 months to keep their knowledge fresh. Therefore keeping the line open is not really a big problem for Southern/Network Rail.
Southern Driver | Homepage | 11.12.11 - 12:41 p.m. | #
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