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As I travel more going north-south I'd be interested in how much of Thameslink journeys are taken up with dawdling. Perhaps comparing the West Hampstead to London Bridge journey with that of the Jubilee.

Alex ‘4D’ Gollner | Homepage | 26.09.23 - 10:03 a.m. | #

I feel strongly that someone else should do research as to the typical time spent not moving between termini on each Overground/Underground line.

Then do a table.

Except W&C and Romford - Upminster.

Still Anon | 26.09.23 - 10:11 a.m. | #

Part of the problem with buses is that the stops are ridiculously close together most of the time.

Stephen | 26.09.23 - 10:15 a.m. | #

A different measure of the effect of stops, on any transport mode, would include the deceleration and acceleration by comparing the time saved end-to-end by omitting a stop.

Malcolm of Kent | 26.09.23 - 10:33 a.m. | #

I suspect the time not moving percentage would vary a lot by line. Part of the reason everyone I know likes the Victoria is that it feels like it doesn't hang about. Quick station calls, very rarely waiting on signals, great acceleration, aggressive breaking.

I suspect its % would be a lot lower.

Huw Thomas | 26.09.23 - 10:36 a.m. | #

Also, you should try the bus journey on a non-London bus. A recent journey I made spent about 40% of the journey selling tickets. Oyster/contactless tap in is really great!

Huw Thomas | 26.09.23 - 10:39 a.m. | #

And that's for the 205 which despite running on busy roads has bus lanes a fair bit of the way and is a rather 'straight line' route!

Wonder what it'd be on the 14 which used to be (and maybe still is) the bus with the slowest average speed. Perhaps lower though given that you don't count time spent queuing in traffic.

matthieu1221 | 26.09.23 - 10:41 a.m. | #

On an evening Northern Line the other day the driver or controller was clearly on the hurry up, as the doors were open for a tiny length of time before shutting and the train departing straight away...

Mikey C | 26.09.23 - 10:47 a.m. | #

You could make a back of the envelope estimate for cycling.

Take the traffic wait times for the bus as being representative of "lawful" cycling (no red light jumping), and assume a fixed average speed for the end to end distance.

I reckon that would be +/- 10% of a overall time measured sample--which will be a variation of the % proportion.

Yes cycles may be able to proceed some of the times that buses cannot due to ability to filter, and use of cycle lanes.

MilesT | 26.09.23 - 10:58 a.m. | #

"Padding-ton indeed" from musicale suggests that those of us here need to up our commenting game.

Tom H | 26.09.23 - 11:59 a.m. | #

'Travelling by scooter in London, about half the time is spent waiting for traffic lights.' That's a dubious statement given scooterists rarely stop at red lights.

dg writes: the scooterist who wrote the comment obviously does.

JohnC | 26.09.23 - 12:21 p.m. | #

Apps like Strava, which record your exercising activity, are usually able to distinguish between total time and total moving time. A hire bike and the app should be enough.

Nick | 26.09.23 - 12:23 p.m. | #

Why are the Crossrail dwell times at stations so long?

dg writes: see previous post.

Andrew | Homepage | 26.09.23 - 12:34 p.m. | #

When I cycle, my cycle computer records the end-to-end trip time - but only for time spent at greater than 0 mph. So, were I to try the Whitechapel to Paddington route by bike, I would have no need to manually use a stopwatch. Record actual departure time from Whitechapel and actual arrival at Paddington to give "elapsed time". Subtract what the cycle computer shows for the trip time ("time in motion") and I would have the time spent stationary.

Malc M | 26.09.23 - 12:43 p.m. | #











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