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A great case study of how new rail lines can facilitate large scale development in areas previously regarded as unattractive.
One key point is that this does not happen over night given that it is 20 years since the jubilee line extension was opened.
A similar visit to areas around stations on the North and South London lines shows the impact of what happens when you just radically improve an existing service. While development is not on the same scale as on the JLE it is noticeable.
BJ | 23.10.19 - 7:13 a.m. | #
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Stratford is arguably not the perfect transport hub, due to the fact that it's already pretty much at capacity at times. MSG appear to have largely overlooked that, and TfL's submission to the planning application has basically told them to go away and check their working.
martin | 23.10.19 - 7:24 a.m. | #
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I imagine that many of the passenger flows for this Stratford Arena won't be at peak rush hour though, which will help.
Indeed clashes with West Ham games might be just as serious an issue
Mikey C | 23.10.19 - 8:50 a.m. | #
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A fascinating and, to me, a worrying piece. On the one hand we are told London has a housing crisis and on the other there seems to be no limit as to how many of these flats get built. Are there any widely available statistics on the number of flats built over the decade and, possibly importantly, how large these are. My, probably wrong, gut feel is the apparently large number of flats being built in supposedly desirable places, eg along the river, are shoebox flats unsuitable for families being purchased by overseas investors taking advantage of the weak pound. Please tell me I'm wrong because if I am right then the key problem, decent housing, preferably houses with gardens, for families is simply not being addressed.
J. | 23.10.19 - 8:50 a.m. | #
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'Stratford Arena' consultations claimed to have taken peak flows such as sport events into account. As a former Underground station capacity planner (yep, my fault, but not all of it - still a big element of art and finger in the air, no matter how good the computer modelling becomes) I have doubts.
And the thought of that giant semi-permanent advert beaming out over east London, more light pollution, more wasted electricity is 'orrible.
Joel | 23.10.19 - 9:04 a.m. | #
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The other development near to Stratford Station which hasn't yet started but is promised for 2022 (with a construction start in 2020) is the 850 bed youth hostel right next to the steps that lead up to the bridge to Westfield. A more welcome development than the MSG sphere.
Joan | 23.10.19 - 9:26 a.m. | #
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The locals by the MSG Sphere dont want it, TfL and NR are not happy as the station cant cope with the current passenger numbers and CR hasnt even opened properly yet. The Glowing Bollock is an eyesore of the first magnitude!
Andrew Jarman | 23.10.19 - 9:39 a.m. | #
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I had to take the Woolwich Ferry on Monday evening. From midstream, the view upriver to Canary Wharf, after-dark, was really quite impressive.
It's hard to believe how it has expanded - and continues to do so - from its beginnings when the only dominant building was One Canada Square.
RogerW | 23.10.19 - 9:44 a.m. | #
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Great overview. Feels to me as though all this wild development is predicated on Crossrail causing the Jubilee to evolve from its core West End/Canary/Stratford nexus into a more local "stopping service".
Philip | 23.10.19 - 1:25 p.m. | #
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The Sphere is a monstrosity. Fancy building that right in front of all those new homes. It only stands a chance of getting approval as planning is controlled by the LLDC rather than Newham.
Peebo Slaignty | 23.10.19 - 1:44 p.m. | #
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Fun fact, the Jubilee line passes through four different boroughs (Southwark, Tower Hamlets, Greenwich and Newham) and four historic counties (Surrey, Middlesex, Kent and Essex) between Canada Water and Canning Town. Is there another railway line in the country to do this in such a short distance?
Phil | 23.10.19 - 3:00 p.m. | #
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How about Kings Cross (Camden), Angel (Islington), Old Street (Hackney), Moorgate (City)?
Not such a short distance, but between Melton Mowbray and Peterborough trains call at four successive stations each in different counties - (Leicestershire, Rutland, Lincolnshire, Cambridgeshire). Historicaly Peterborough was in Northamptonshire, so you can extend to Whittelsey and thus five counties.
Banbury (Oxon), Kings Sutton (Northants), Leamington Spa (Warwickshire), Coventry (W Midlands Met County) is another example.
timbo | 23.10.19 - 5:00 p.m. | #
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That stretch of the Northern Line is certainly comparable in terms of distance and boroughs but they’re all of course within Middlesex. The impressive bit about the Jubilee Line (aided of course by its many crossings of the Thames) is that it passes through four historic counties. That Melton Mowbray-Whittlesey run is a good one though, five counties in around forty miles or so.
Phil | 23.10.19 - 6:26 p.m. | #
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The Midlands sequence has been broken since April 2018 when Kenilworth (Warks.) station opened between Leamington and Coventry.
Man of Kent | 23.10.19 - 7:00 p.m. | #
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With all the current concern about diet and food additives, why do they want a sphere of monosodium glutamate in Stratford?
Another Man of Kent | 23.10.19 - 8:40 p.m. | #
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