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Tredegar road is still completely closed to traffic and has been for four days

fishislandskin | 19.10.24 - 8:13 a.m. | #

Went to the excellent exhibition at the Nunnery Gallery on Wednesday and can confirm the horrendous queues of traffic. Luckily we took the DLR!

Peter | 19.10.24 - 8:19 a.m. | #

Thanks for tracking this. It’s remarkable that it’s taken an FoI request to find out what the scheme is all about. TfL need to make much greater effort to explain what they’re up to, here and elsewhere in London, to road users and local people.

PhilSW11 | 19.10.24 - 8:20 a.m. | #

I've often pondered that where a junction has many lanes in and out, to deter queue barging (and hence frustration and collisions), overhead ANPR cameras should be fitted to track such drivers and after a few transgressions get at least a warning, if not penalty.
One such is the A1M southbound onto M25 at South Mimms - that would substantially improve blocked lanes.

Nick K | 19.10.24 - 8:21 a.m. | #

A shame they have not taken the opportunity for eastbound Bow Road to have a dedicated through lane 1 for traffic turning north which would almost eliminate the queuing traffic eastbound blocking the eastbound flyover and reduce Mr Kahn's dreaded pollution, but I guess those pesky cyclists get in the way.

dg writes: McDonalds gets in the way.

Must win the trophy for most tweaked junction in London this century by a country mile. Five times if my memory is correct, plus around 2008 the Olympic construction bus lane with incorrect signage under the east flyover that was never used.

Construction will not be straightforward because much of the structure is suspended over canal and underpass, or under flyover pillars

scrumpy | 19.10.24 - 9:06 a.m. | #

If you are shocked by the time I imagine you’d be shocked by the cost! I suspect a big part of the time and the cost is working close to the structure of the flyover/fly under and I’d also imagine there are lots of stats (water, electricity, gas) in the area too and probably very shallow.

Theres limited detail as TfL are a bit embarrassed by this - they aren’t supposed to be doing schemes which increase capacity for drivers!

David | 19.10.24 - 9:41 a.m. | #

We have a proposed TfL scheme out here for the Hogarth roundabout on the A4, to squeeze in some extra lanes to increase capacity, though the reason they’re giving is to ‘improve safety’.

ActonMan | 19.10.24 - 10:48 a.m. | #

I wish someone would audit the time and cost of roadworks in the UK. I am convinced they are a front for shifting public money to nefarious objectives via front companies set up to over price contracts awarded by government. 2020 shows the government has form in this regard, and usually links to those getting the contracts. Years of permanent roadworks on motorways, smart motorways where the work really looks like just gantries to hold speed cameras and permanent led signs to drop the speed limit even at 4am in the guise of "pollution". Putney Bridge 4 months to upgrade the traffic lights and traffic islands. FFS.

Roman | 19.10.24 - 1:20 p.m. | #

The merge from two lanes into one by Cooks Road looks nasty - I could definitely see a cyclist getting squeezed out of the bike lane there, given it's unprotected!

James Scantlebury | 19.10.24 - 3:05 p.m. | #

It could perhaps be done in under 4 months, but at vastly increased cost. Of time, cost and quality, the customer can vary two, but with typically dire consequences on the third.

Malcolm of Kent | 19.10.24 - 3:52 p.m. | #

Does it impact Bus Stop M in any way?

Dubidubno | 19.10.24 - 11:16 p.m. | #

Only that the bus stop's mostly occupied by queueing traffic during the roadworks. It wont be affected by the final design.

diamond geezer | Homepage | 19.10.24 - 11:18 p.m. | #

I think this warrants a long series of articles from Bus Stop M!

Dubidubno | 20.10.24 - 9:06 a.m. | #

Is it worth asking a civil engineer to explain how this works? I'm not a specialist, but would suspect that the reason that the lane closures have all been done together, and in advance of the work starting, is not incompetence but good management. If you just cone each bit off as you start work, the contractors who do the work need to keep coming back which will be inefficient and expensive. If they are delayed for any reason, the work can't start so more time and expense. And each time it changes, the overall site layout changes so the Risk Assessment needs re-doing and everyone working on site need re-briefing on layout and safe working arrangements. And motorists get confused as the road layout changes every few days.

So I suspect it's been arranged this way deliberately, not least to reduce the chance of accidents.

My experience is in a different sort of project but I'm very familiar with the 'anything I don't understand must be easy' mentality which non-experts tend to adopt in these cases.

BCW | 20.10.24 - 11:19 a.m. | #











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