please empty your brain below
The poster compiler could have done with access to a London wide bus map. Ah; but bus maps aren’t needed, we’re told.

Roger French | Homepage | 13.06.22 - 7:22 a.m. | #

Nice font though. And isn't it all just done for appearance?

Simon | Homepage | 13.06.22 - 7:39 a.m. | #

I am confused. This article starts by referring to closures of the DLR, then shifts into planned closure of the District Line.
No doubts about the total wallyhood of the writer of the depicted notice, though.

Malcolm of Kent | 13.06.22 - 8:28 a.m. | #

Sorry, it's me. Confusing Bow Road Station with Bow Church Station.

Malcolm of Kent | 13.06.22 - 8:31 a.m. | #

To be fair, I don't get why rail replacement buses are free. We have to pay for the train so why not its alternative?
Yes it's more inconvenient to make the journey by bus, but the bus fare is cheaper, so in my mind it balances out.

Best solution would be to keep the express rail replacement buses but charge the normal bus fare, and save all this extra work/confusion.

Cornish Cockney | 13.06.22 - 9:46 a.m. | #

Rail replacement buses are not “free”, but TfL have absolved bus drivers of checking for tickets, ticket halls are often closed, meaning paper tickets cannot be bought, and the Customer Assistants at bus stops are no longer provided.

Kim | 13.06.22 - 9:56 a.m. | #

Posters clearly state 'You must have a valid ticket before using the replacement bus service'.

...but nobody checks, and in this contactless age I'm not sure how you'd obtain one in the first place.

diamond geezer | Homepage | 13.06.22 - 10:02 a.m. | #

For most people using a station in an area they are not familiar with is already confusing, then encouraging them to use a bus service they haven't used before just adds stress, then add on misleading information.

PTSD - Passenger Travel Stress Disorder.

I don't like the word 'between', the 425 doesn't run between Bow Road and Mile End stations, it runs between Iford and Homerton Hospital - it links Bow Road and Mile End.

One point about high petrol/diesel prices - it might increase bus passenger usage.

Still Anon | 13.06.22 - 10:27 a.m. | #

What is it that makes people in the quasi public sector so unable to communicate? Prime current example for me is the DVLA, reasonably checking on my fitness to drive, my being over 70, sending my GP a form to complete without specifying any particular ailment of potential concern. As the Sunday Times ran a long article yesterday, we seem to live in broken Britain these days.

J. | 13.06.22 - 11:03 a.m. | #

Cornish Cockney - the bus is not always cheaper than the tube. Off-peak (i.e. at the weekend) a Zone 2 single tube fare is £1.60 compared to £1.65 for the bus. Worse still, people with discounts such as a Railcard added to their Oyster receive 33% off tube fares off-peak bringing it to £1.05 for the tube - the same cannot be said for buses.

Rotherhithe | 13.06.22 - 11:26 a.m. | #

Rail replacement services outside London also require passengers to have a ticket. Drivers cannot check this (just like train drivers cannot and do not). Occasional checks are made, by railway staff getting on the bus, but these checks are pretty rare.

I wonder if a London journey by train-RRB-train would be charged on Oyster or contactless as one journey. Probably not, but in most cases the two separate train fares will amount to less than the through fare for the whole journey anyway.

dg writes: a) No. b) No they wouldn't.

Malcolm of Kent | 13.06.22 - 3:33 p.m. | #

If you're travelling to somewhere the normal bus route passes by then it may be better to catch that rather than using the RRB and walking from the station, but the poster fails to suggest that.

Andrew S | 13.06.22 - 4:13 p.m. | #

Maybe someone pops this on display when they see DG coming, and whips it down when he’s gone…

Lorraine | 13.06.22 - 4:41 p.m. | #

In my occasional experience of RRBs for the Underground, there are sometimes a few hi-vis jackets around to point you at the bus stop, but they rarely have a clue - or at least a correct clue - as to whether and where to touch in or out. However, sometimes the back-end system does seem to be aware of the issue and automatically (or otherwise) corrects it.

Peter | 13.06.22 - 5:45 p.m. | #

Possibly not enough space to add route 78 - Liverpool St and sarf London inc Aldagate/Tower Hill.

scrumpy | 13.06.22 - 8:58 p.m. | #

Being a few days behind in blog reading I opened this one on a 25 in Bow. Had just been to look at the almost unchanged in 35 years bus shed, been horrified by Bus Stop M which was worse in real-life than you had warned of, then discovered similar on the westbound, where it took a while to work out on the next stop screens that stops had not been renamed finally working out that Stepney Green Station "Cross" was actually part of a warning about the cycle way.

SuperBow86 | 15.06.22 - 9:11 p.m. | #

As station staff, I never put up the Northern line closures bus posters. The route numbers were wrong. The destinations of buses were wrong,.Unfortunately this is the same department that sends out the weekly engineering posters littered with inaccurate info and spelling mistakes. The posters are then reprinted at huge cost once or even twice more. This is almost every week.

Nigel | 17.06.22 - 10:07 a.m. | #











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