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Yes - those Crossrail connections look a bit odd. But at least they enable the savvy reader to see that there will be connections from the new Crossrail station to two tube stations.

Whereas the map shows the Canary Wharf Crossrail station being adjacent to Canary Wharf DLR & Jubilee stations. Which is not really accurate - the Crossrail station is be probably closer to Poplar and WestIndiaQuay DLR stations (or at best, equi-distant to all three). And it'l be a bit of a hike from the Crossrail station to the Jubilee station.

Sounds like I'm moaning. Not really, I'm delighted they are finally digging the Crossrail tunnels. Roll on when it is actually built and open.

Will the new Crossrail service replace the existing National Express Shenfield to London Liverpool Street "Metro" service?

The Croxley rail link is a mess. Completely out of touch with what's actually needed. The closure of the existing Met station will leave a large residential area without public transport, and the siting of the stations fails to address the needs of the hospital and the football club. There was also a connection enabling trains from London to enter the Croxley branch line that was demolished in the early 90s. Given that they intend to change the stock to match that on the London Overground, it would make sense to reinstate that branch.

to Silent Hunter

Yes, I believe that is the plan

That map is already wrong, as the District Line service to Olympia is to be axed (except at weekends) from December - funny they didn't show that.

The depiction of Clapham Junction and Stratford on the map don't make it as clear as they might that changes are needed between LO services at CJ and between DLR services at Stratford

Is there anything here that wasn't started/proposed by Ken but completed under Boris' watch?

(Except for the New Bus for London which is likely to be on the cusp of "squadron service" just as Ken gets backs in in 2012 and thus likely to be quickly cancelled as a project.)


It might help if you had your facts straight before condemning what would be a *very* useful link from the Chilterns and NW London to Watford centre.

i) the connection from the London direction to the Croxley Green branch was removed in the 1960s, not the 1990s.
ii) the Croxley Link is proposed to divert the Met over the Croxley Green branch trackbed so it can serve Watford High Street and Watford Junction instead. Far more useful than either branch service ever is/was.
iii) it would also serve west Watford, the area of highest housing density in the town.
iv) a new Ascot Road station will be built less than 800m from the current Watford station, handy enough for Cassiobury residents.
v) a new Watford General Hospital station would serve, er, the hospital and the football club. As well as west Watford (see iii).

Really, if you're going to opppose the scheme, at least do so with facts rather than ill-informed drivel.

I only condemn it in it's currently proposed form. The principal is, as usual, sound. The implementation rather less sound.

(1) The service was withdrawn in the 60s. The major infrastructure was removed in the 90s when the bridge over Wiggenhall Road was demolished. I know, I watched them do it.
(2) I agree that the East-West rail links around Hertfordshire really do need strengthening.
(3) & (5) There's no plan to reopen West Watford station. The proposal is to replace it with one on the North side of Tolpits Lane. IMHO it would be far better to retain West Watford station as is and construct a new station at Cardiff Road which would serve the hospital, football ground, Riverside Road, Wiggenhall Road and Eastbury Road (up to Brookdene Avenue).
(4) Not residents on the North side of the Cassiobury estate! Draw some circles on a map, you'll see!

I'm well equipped with the facts, thank you. I've read the various proposals in detail, I've lived in the area for 25 years and have participated in many public consultations and surveys (including having my property being used as a baseline noise survey recording site). The current proposal has some merits, but much more could be done to improve the scheme at very little extra cost, or indeed at reduced cost (by running a bus/LRT service over the trackbed, saving the cost of a new bridge at Two Bridges).

So Boris's Big Idea is to string people up? Nice.

"Is there anything here that wasn't started/proposed by Ken but completed under Boris' watch? "

I think you (we all) know the answer to that one...

Although Crossrail is so old it wasn't even started or proposed by Ken...

Ken's biggest legacy to London (from first time round, in the 80s) is probably the zonal fares system and the Travelcard. Boris's biggest legacy...remains to be seen. Or even dreamed of.

The bikes. It'll be the bikes.

"Boris Bike" is just such a lovely alliterative phrase it has to pass into the language.

honestly... if your blog isn't about the Olympics, it's about the tube ...


Even the cycle hire and superhighway schemes' were ideas that predate Boris's mayoralty - as this article fromn February 2008 proves

Considering the fiasco of the tube PFI and the current economic cutbacks, what would have been your alternatives?

East London Transit cancelled? No relation to East London Transit, then?

dg writes: I didn't say that East London Transit had been cancelled. I said that East London Transit (to Barkingside, Romford and Rainham) had been cancelled. And those parts have.

The DLR extension delay is particularly annoying at Royal Victoria, where a new exit that bypasses a now-unnecessary footbridge over the old NLL has been ready, but closed to the public, for almost a year. Many of us have resorted to jumping the fence for a quick exit from the station now.

Debendyfying London is probably Boris's main transport legacy - even if Ken cancels the Borismaster, I can't see him reintroducing bendybuses?

The Crossrail extension to Kingston shown in the original TfL map is an interesting story. There was no intention to have this south west branch. The scheme was progressing nicely with the route that is now being built until the then SRA was given a say on the route for some 6 months or so. Suddenly the route to Kingston appeared which was completely impractical resulting in south west trains being completely messed up during construction and even longer journeys into the city and west end than now. The proposal was quietly dropped as soon as the SRA was abolished.

The SRA also messed up Woolwich station - which was in the original scheme. The SRA however wanted to run freight services through this section of Crossrail and it was determined freight trains can not run through underground passenger stations. Woolwich station was therefore dropped. When the SRA was removed from the scheme and the freight idea was dropped due to the DLR taking over the North London Line from Stratford to North Woolwich no-one put the station back in again until Crossrail went through the Parliamentry process and even now it is still dependent on developer contributions which are still not guranteed.

So, in 2019, how did they do?

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