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If you head over to Twickenham you’ll encounter a group of six, but they’re slightly different.
They’re ‘First Cross Road’ to ‘Sixth Cross Road’.

Rob Healy | Homepage | 20.04.18 - 7:05 a.m. | #

There's also a First, Second and Third Avenue in both Walthamstow and Queen's Park.

martin | 20.04.18 - 7:06 a.m. | #

to be called Avenues they should surely have had at least some trees originally, but your photos don't show many trees now.

amber | 20.04.18 - 7:12 a.m. | #

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dg writes: For another time...

Christopher Bellew | Homepage | 20.04.18 - 7:31 a.m. | #

Ah, I though you might have mentioned in the "outside London" section the Orchard Park area of Hull. Lots of numbered streets (Avenues all), surely more than anywhere else in the UK, in a fairly incoherent pattern. Oddly, they don't quite form a complete sequence, or if some numbers are missing, but you get upto as high as 40th Avenue.

There's no 3rd, 13th, 35th or 39th Avenues (was there once?), while 4th and 38th are slightly apart from the rest.

dg writes: Ah, I missed those (on the North Hull Estate) because they were numbers, not words. Added, thanks.

Back closer London, Dagenham offers you First, Second and Third Avenues.

Dominic H | 20.04.18 - 7:36 a.m. | #

In Killingworth, Newcastle upon Tyne there are Garths 1-33 although some numbers are missing.

BrightonRo | 20.04.18 - 7:47 a.m. | #

A classic post, excellent research too. I'm afraid I seem to be the first commenter not to add any supplementary avenues.

Malcolm | 20.04.18 - 7:52 a.m. | #

...while over in leafy Barnes, it goes First Avenue, Second Avenue, Crowley Road. So two then.

GJ | 20.04.18 - 8:09 a.m. | #

As most of those roads don't lead anywhere, and they are devoid of lines of trees, I'd argue for them being named First Close, Second Close...etc.

B | 20.04.18 - 8:11 a.m. | #

Even little Newhaven down on the south coast has a First, Second and Third Avenue.

Sarah | 20.04.18 - 8:30 a.m. | #

Anyone got any non-integer valued roads: Semi Lane, Sesqui Street...?
There’s an Infinity Close in Portslade, Brighton.

Jimmy | 20.04.18 - 8:38 a.m. | #

Not quite the same, but worth mentioning the Milton Keynes numbered V and H main roads.

Medford | 20.04.18 - 8:43 a.m. | #

@Martin

Queens Park not only has First, Second and Third Avenues but Fourth, Fifth and Sixth ones too.

It also has the oddity that the streets that cross them have names starting with consecutive letters of the alphabet.

Nightmale | 20.04.18 - 8:47 a.m. | #

Bush Hill Park in Enfield has First, Second and Third Avenues (and Main) - they used to go up to Seventh Ave, but 4-7 were cleared in the early 1960s and replaced by an estate.

Steve | 20.04.18 - 8:52 a.m. | #

York has a set of streets in the Heworth area named First Avenue to Ninth Avenue.

Richard Semmens | 20.04.18 - 9:00 a.m. | #

In Heaton, Newcastle upon Tyne, is a pre-1914 estate of terraced houses where the streets are named First Avenue to Tenth Avenue. There's no pattern to the naming.

David Cook | 20.04.18 - 9:02 a.m. | #

As Dominic mentioned above, those Avenues in Hull are diabolically numbered. I'm sure that many a delivery driver has got lost while trying to find the 'next' number in the sequence. There doesn't seem to be any rationale for their numbering.

Or was it, perhaps, the order in which they were built - utterly irrelevant nowadays ?

dg writes: The odd numbers are south of Greenwood Avenue, and the even numbers are north.

Petras409 | 20.04.18 - 9:13 a.m. | #

Burton-on-Trent can manage nine: the Centrum 100 business park features First Avenue through to Ninth Avenue, leading off the Parkway between Shobnall Road and the A38 at Branston.

TheLupineOne | 20.04.18 - 9:21 a.m. | #

There are at least three streets called 'Forth Avenue' in Scotland, one in Northern Ireland and one in Portishead, Bristol.

David | 20.04.18 - 9:35 a.m. | #

Wondering if there are any quasi-urban (i.e. with houses and such) roads, known only by a road number (A1, etc.)

Jeremy | 20.04.18 - 9:41 a.m. | #

My parents met at a bottling company in First Avenue, Goole, Yorks, right next to the station.

AlanBG | 20.04.18 - 10:14 a.m. | #

I've a feeling there's something similar at Southend-on-Sea though from recollection the numbers don't go very high.

dg writes: Stops at Second.

Near Bexleyheath they didn't use numbers but names in rising alphabetical order, to name the roads in one particular area, which has since entered the parlance of the local estate agents as 'the ABC roads'

RogerW | 20.04.18 - 10:23 a.m. | #

In the mid 1940s a large number of prefabs were built in East Mitcham (Pollards Hill). The first were occupied in 1946. The grid of roads they were built on were named sequentially from First Road (for NE-SW aligned roads, and First Avenue (for NW-SE aligned roads). At least two of these road names survive, Eighteenth Road and Nineteenth Road CR4 1QJ.

dg writes: Footnote updated, thanks.

Tony P | 20.04.18 - 10:30 a.m. | #

Hove has a First, Second, Third and Fourth Avenue, two on either side of the very grand Grand Avenue.

Mark | 20.04.18 - 10:57 a.m. | #

For non-integers, there's plenty of Halfpenny Roads and Farthing Roads, will they do?

Malcolm | 20.04.18 - 11:07 a.m. | #

We can only manage first to fourth at the Dunton Plotlands. But perhaps get the prize for fewest surviving houses in a numbered series.

Dave Walker | Homepage | 20.04.18 - 11:52 a.m. | #

Apart from Twickenham, names like First Cross Road are found in India. Had the developer or anyone else in Twickenham been out there or was it the other way round?

Sprout Eater | 20.04.18 - 12:34 p.m. | #

you can do quite a good 'not New York' in that part of London: Fifth Avenue, Broadway (Romford ór Barking), Central Park (Romford), https://twitter.com/stereo/status/764816883065483264

jg | Homepage | 20.04.18 - 1:02 p.m. | #

The differences in street name sign design in Hayes reflect political changes as much as anything, as each party tried to put its mark on the area with a different borough logo.

I should defend the numbering scheme in Hull what with being born about a mile away, but I still think it's perverse!

Andrew S | 20.04.18 - 1:44 p.m. | #

Any advance on 100?
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dg writes: That's a cardinal number, not an ordinal number.

timbo again | Homepage | 20.04.18 - 2:06 p.m. | #

Trafford Park, Stretford, Manchester once upon a time had First to (at least) Eleventh Street and First to Fifth Avenue. The streets were terraced houses built for the workers at what was (at my time there) Metropolitan-Vickers. As far as I can tell the houses have all been demolished and replaced by factory units. but some of the streets and avenues still exist.

MikeR | 20.04.18 - 2:16 p.m. | #

The Pollards Hill stuff is interesting. I never knew that about the area. Though seeing what's replaced the pre-fabs, I'm not sure it's better.

Chz | 20.04.18 - 2:41 p.m. | #

Sprout Eater 12:34, maybe, but the roads were originally called Workhouse Road, Middle Road, 3rd, 2nd and 1st Common Roads (now First to Fifth Cross Roads respectively) and were laid down with those names after the 1818 Enclosure Act.

David | 20.04.18 - 2:47 p.m. | #

Did you spot another very slightly shorter set very close to the ones you found in Peterlee - just down the road in Blackhall Colliery : first to eleventh : https://osm.org/go/evtTcWV~

Sam | Homepage | 20.04.18 - 4:38 p.m. | #

Newtongrange in Midlothian has First up to Tenth Streets. Like several others on the list it's a former miners' village.

But I think the one that'll take beating is Fawley Refinery, which not only numbers its north-south roads up to Fourteenth Street but has its east-west roads as A Avenue to J Avenue. But it's all within a private development so it may not count.

Greg | 20.04.18 - 6:15 p.m. | #

@medford In Central Milton Keynes we also have Second to Fourteenth Streets each of which is split variously in to up to four parts giving eg North/Upper/Lower Second Street or North/Upper/Lower/South Fourth Street or Upper Fourteenth Street.

Not sure what happened to First Street.

MKIan | 20.04.18 - 7:49 p.m. | #

This is vintage DG.

Anon | 20.04.18 - 8:57 p.m. | #

I vividly imagine Count Geezer surrounded by thunder, lightning, a flock of bats and echoing laughter as he arrives at the corner of Ninth Avenue ...

Telly Monster | 20.04.18 - 9:22 p.m. | #

Cardinal rather than ordinal, but the pedestrian area outside Liverpool FC's main stand in Anfield is now named 96 Avenue. This is of course for reasons other than simple street planning.

Robert | Homepage | 20.04.18 - 10:15 p.m. | #

There is a strange, isolated 'Third Way' in Avonmouth near Bristol. It's in a mess of industrial zones though, so it's entirely possibly that its neighbours have been built over. Presumably this isn't the 'third way' that Tony Blair and friends had in mind!

Mike Newman | Homepage | 21.04.18 - 7:51 a.m. | #

Dont forget theres a First, Second and Third Avenue off Balaam Street E13

Drew | Homepage | 21.04.18 - 7:56 a.m. | #

re Pollards Hill and the prefabs:
The 1953 OS map (courtesy of NLS maps) clearly shows the prefabs all laid out.

This large scale, detailed map series is interesting in that the mapping was carried out just after the war and shows the areas of London etc. before the mass demolition and rebuild that was to follow, including 'temporary' buildings such as prefabs.

Many sites are marked as 'Ruins', but I assume that these were the worst places (i.e. flattened / beyond repair etc.) at the time of the mapping

Roger | 21.04.18 - 11:33 a.m. | #

I notice that 18th and 19th Roads in Mitcham are both back alleys (and have always been so), so they are part of no-one's address. Makes you wonder what the point of naming them in the sequence was.

None | 21.04.18 - 3:54 p.m. | #

Just found some more, running at right angles to the seafront between Margate and Cliftonville. There are four parallel avenues though rather peculiarly they're numbered 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th.
Between 3rd and 5th there is just a green, on which an indoor bowls centre is now sited: one can only guess whether the developers had originally had designs on this stretch of land, too.

RogerW | 30.12.18 - 11:12 a.m. | #











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