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Very interesting, DG, but I'm getting to TfL's Error Page when I click on the FoI links. Help!

Betterbee | 08.12.20 - 7:24 a.m. | #

The FoI section of the TfL website appears to be down this morning, sorry.

(it's back up now)

diamond geezer | Homepage | 08.12.20 - 7:36 a.m. | #

Last sentence - that's only if the indicators aren't blocked by cameras, pillars, curved platforms, mirrors, or advertising projectors!

dg writes: They're not.

anon | 08.12.20 - 7:50 a.m. | #

This must, presumably, be known as Action Man Line?

Sarah | Homepage | 08.12.20 - 8:05 a.m. | #

I await the first signal failure.

Running_Correspondent | 08.12.20 - 8:08 a.m. | #

Good morning DG,
When you say "I find this last number strange" I believe it's due to 2 trains running from Gidea Park to LS high level, maybe as Greater Anglia services.

Pincinator | 08.12.20 - 9:15 a.m. | #

So any of the new developments springing up in Acton and marketed as 'Handy for Heathrow' will have to modify their blurb. 'Handy for Hayes and Harlington' doesn't have quite the same ring to it!

ActonMan | 08.12.20 - 10:23 a.m. | #

I think you've been misled by the published timetable. According to TfL's Journey Planner there are already only 2 TfL trains an hour to Heathrow, presumably due to the airport being virtually deserted. They just seem to be rearranging things slightly from December so the Hayes terminators are the ones that call at Acton Main Line instead, though that doesn't seem to result in any reduction in the journey time to Heathrow.

AS | 08.12.20 - 11:33 a.m. | #

I suspect that the FoI is based on slightly out of date information. I reckon that the plan was always to increase the off-peak service on the Shenfield line from 6 to 8tph when it was connected into the core, however in light of the ongoing delays I imagine it has been decided to bring that forward.

For the part where the eastern but not the western side has been linked in I believe the figures of 16 & 24tph actually relate to Paddington to Whitechapel with trains alternating between eastern destinations.

When I read the FoI I decided to take an educated guess as to what order off-peak westbound trains would be in going through the core, based on where they started from and what other trains they would need to fit around. I ended up with:

Heathrow T4
Paddington
Heathrow T5
Maidenhead
Paddington
Heathrow T4
Paddington
Paddington
Reading
Paddington
(and repeat)

although as I said this is only a guess (and also subject to change).

X-Plaistow | 08.12.20 - 12:23 p.m. | #

Once again approaches from the west get shafted.

R | 08.12.20 - 12:24 p.m. | #

Odd how Abbey Wood will have a not-insignificant reduction in the number of services at some point in 2023.

Brad | 08.12.20 - 4:12 p.m. | #

the problem with having both A and B at one end connecting to E and F at the other is that you inevitably get an uneven interval pattern somewhere.

So if C & D are the stations at the end of the core, then an even interval C-D would be:
A-C-D-E
B-C-D-F
A-C-D-F
B-C-D-E
A-C-D-E
B-C-D-F
A-C-D-F
B-C-D-E
giving an even interval on the branches at one end, but bunching at the other

Al__S | 08.12.20 - 7:35 p.m. | #

When the line is fully operational, will the Shenfield - Liverpool Street (upper level) services still be branded TfL Rail to avoid confusion with the lower level platforms or is that just for the initial period?

dg writes: No.

flange | 09.12.20 - 11:50 a.m. | #











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