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Any idea what caused the decline in passenger numbers at Lochluichart?
Ian | 14.01.20 - 10:18 a.m. | #
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^ Somebody brought a car
E | 14.01.20 - 10:22 a.m. | #
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Perhaps a stupid question... But are the numbers measured in the same way for the London rail stations?
So with Waterloo and Victoria (and most of the Top 10) for example, ticket barriers to NR services are distinctly separate from the Underground barriers; while other stations (e.g. Stratford, H&I, Wimbledon) have barriers shared by both, so would count tube users too?
dg writes: Tube users are counted separately.
For example, the data shows Greenford has only 153,000 rail users per year (but it has 5 million tube users).
BP | 14.01.20 - 10:44 a.m. | #
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I never realised Brighton was so busy. You can see the pressure on the Brighton Main Line when you look at the passenger numbers using Brighton, Gatwick and East Croydon...
Mikey C | 14.01.20 - 10:46 a.m. | #
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Noticeably few significant changes of position in all the "busiest" lists. (The "least busy" lists are subject to small number effects).
Malcolm | 14.01.20 - 11:01 a.m. | #
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I see perennial low entry/exit station Teesside Airport had a whopping 206 punters! In 2012/13 and 2013/14 it was the least used station in the country, with just eight passengers a year in both periods (source Wiki)
Southern Man | 14.01.20 - 11:06 a.m. | #
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So in its last full year of use, Angel Road's patronage increased by 8%
The biggest surprise is actually Waterloo. Patronage fell last year (2017/18) from 99m to 94m because of the rebuilding work and partial closure in August 2017. I expected it to bounce back this year, but it's actually fallen further.
Liverpool Central's drop this year is because last year was a temporary blip, caused by rebuilding at nearby Lime Street.
The station which has dropped out of London's bottom 10 is Belmont (now 12th) which has, like Birkbeck, experienced an increase in usage of over 20%.
timbo | 14.01.20 - 11:07 a.m. | #
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I wonder about the treatment of passengers changing between tube and NR at say Stratford or Highbury'n'Islington. Unlike terminus changers, they don't go through ticket gates. But maybe they are estimated from surveys.
Malcolm | 14.01.20 - 11:08 a.m. | #
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Not sure why Whitechapel and Canada Water are counted as National Rail stations.
I thought London Overground came under the TFL umbrella.
Richard | 14.01.20 - 11:55 a.m. | #
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Richard - London Overground and TfL Rail are parts of the National Rail network that happen to be operated by TfL. Similar situations occur in Merseyside, Wales and Scotland.
timbo | 14.01.20 - 12:07 p.m. | #
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I would imagine Wimbledon, though while not Orange, also benefits from substantial National Rail / Tram to Tube interchanges.
However, it may also be a station where the numbers are less reliable as only passengers using a smart card will be touching those pink readers. Many season ticket holders in SWR land are still relying on card passes with magnetic strips.
This thought made me read the research methodology which reveals how hard they work to try and make it right.
It also revealed one curiosity...
Deptford is showing a 68.8% increase in use to 1,785,086 passengers from 1,057,530. They say it's related to increases in Southeastern and Thameslink usage, not that any other trains stop there. I suppose it may be a fall out from the long term works at London Bridge.
ap | 14.01.20 - 12:18 p.m. | #
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I actually think the significance of the least used National Rail stations list has diminished considerably because, once a station climbs (or rather slips) to the cream of the crop, adventurers from all over the country will flock to mark their Visit of the Year, thus effectively kicking it off the list next year.
Still, interesting year ahead as this time we have double-champions.
Patrickov | 14.01.20 - 12:32 p.m. | #
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London's ten least busy Overground stations: Going by the numbers it looks like Crouch Hill and Walthamstow Queens Road should move up to 6th & 7th.
dg writes: That's this year's cut-and-paste data error. Updated, thanks.
O | 14.01.20 - 12:37 p.m. | #
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On Saturdays it is possible to do a round trip between Stanlow & Thornton and Denton, thereby boosting the figures of both. Leaving S&T at 0718 and changing at Manchester Picadilly and Guide Bridge you get to Denton at 1022. However, leaving again at 1054, with the same changes, you don't get back to S&T until 1811, as it requires a five hour wait at one of the connecting stations (doesn't matter which).
timbo | 14.01.20 - 1:34 p.m. | #
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The least used stations are probably subject to the GeoffTech effect..
Jon Jones | 14.01.20 - 2:06 p.m. | #
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Kings Cross + St Pancras makes 65m which I believe puts it 4th, not 3rd
dg writes: 36m+ 35m = 71m
Leo Levontine | 14.01.20 - 2:28 p.m. | #
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Redcar British Steel is now closed, so won't be troubling the scorers further.
David | 14.01.20 - 3:08 p.m. | #
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Redcar British Steel will appear in next year's data because it closed eight months into the survey period.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 14.01.20 - 3:14 p.m. | #
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It's time once again for the annual splurge of passenger data from across Britain's railway network.
Doesn't time fly.
ywn | 14.01.20 - 4:17 p.m. | #
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One of the consequences of high usage is overcrowding on platforms. It would be interesting to quote the number of passengers per platform or per metre of platform. Liverpool Central which has only three platforms, each long enough to take a six-car train, might top the list.
anothertim | 14.01.20 - 6:31 p.m. | #
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Glasgow Queen Street is still very much mid-upgrade, though the platform lengthening for longer trains is I think complete now.
Al__S | 14.01.20 - 6:56 p.m. | #
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In its FAQs, ORR notes that Heathrow Express and Eurostar are excluded from the counts. If Eurostar were included, would St Pancras top the chart?
dg writes: No.
Betterbee | 15.01.20 - 1:34 a.m. | #
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A bit of Googling indicates that Eurostar carries about 11m passengers pa and Heathrow Express about 6m, but whether these figures are comparable with ORR calculations I don't know.
Betterbee | 15.01.20 - 7:11 a.m. | #
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Eurostar may be the market leader for London - Paris, but its total passenger numbers are quite small in comparison with National Rail.
There was much excitement in some parts of the media a few months ago about a possible merger between Eurostar and Thalys companies (Thalys operates Paris - Brussels - Koln & Amsterdam). The combined passenger numbers of Eurostar and Thalys are about the same as LNER, which is just one of four operators at King's Cross.
(I don't have the figures to hand.)
Rail Observer | 15.01.20 - 7:16 a.m. | #
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With regards Teesside Airport's rise, the airport itself has recently been taken over by the Metro Mayor and amongst his improvement pledges has been action on the station so the figures may well include local publicity visits.
Belmont's growth is almost certainly down to the improved service. Previously it was one train an hour each way and nothing on Sundays. Now it's two an hour including a Sunday service, making it a bit more useful for local residents rather than going to/from either Sutton or Cheam.
Tim Roll-Pickering | Homepage | 15.01.20 - 1:12 p.m. | #
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