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I suppose the current green man does on balance look slightly more like a man than a woman, and I doubt the designer intentionally made it look ambiguous, but it's pretty generic.
The only one of the four I could readily identify as being a woman came in for some criticism because she was wearing high heels and so conformed to a stereotype, which does rather go to show that you just can't please everyone.
Andrew S | 14.03.21 - 5:19 p.m. | #
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Thank you dg, mind you I'm unlikely to spot any on my circumscribed outings at the moment.
What you did do though was prod the memory for me to search back for 'LGBT traffic lights'. Images from about five years ago can be seen, one was at Oxford Circus I think.
The couple image making a heart shape between the two (androgynous) figures raises a smile.
Gordon | 14.03.21 - 9:57 p.m. | #
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I thought it was an evolution of our lockdown bodies!
One year ago I was the woman in the bottom left, but by the time all restrictions have ease I'll be striding out again as the bottom right!
Cornish Cockney | 14.03.21 - 10:16 p.m. | #
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Clearly these discriminate against those walking right to left.
Still Anon | 14.03.21 - 11:28 p.m. | #
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....to be replaced by images of men on International Men's Day. The Charlie Chaplain red and green figures were fun in Camden Town in the 90s.
scrumpy | 15.03.21 - 7:56 a.m. | #
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Nice try. But as DG implies, the main thing wrong with the standard green figure is what we call it. Cross when you see the green man.
Malcolm of Kent | 15.03.21 - 10:11 a.m. | #
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In german, which is often more concise than english, the "traffic light men or women or other" is called "Ampelmann" (Ampel = Lightbulb) or "Ampelmaennchen" - Maennchen means "figure of human being" and yes, it refers to the neutral "man".
If you scroll down the Wikipedia article you will see clever local renditions of the Ampelmaennchen.
intreader | 15.03.21 - 10:31 a.m. | #
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To avoid the endless controversy (which I'm sure elicits a shrug of indifference from 99.9% of the population), perhaps a neutral green arrow would suffice.
JohnC | 15.03.21 - 12:55 p.m. | #
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Geneva has diversed their crossing signs.
I remember a few years back a proposal for change in German Switzerland (Zurich) got turned down on costs reasons. The traditional crossing sign used to show a man in a hat, though i believe the hat is gone now, unlike in Norway.
I guess this will evolve everywhere. Geneva are traditionally more liberal than the rest of Switzerland.
international reader | 15.03.21 - 1:00 p.m. | #
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For many years I've annoyed my family and friends by calling this traffic light display 'the red/green figure'.
It's certainly worth debating how and why 'green/red man' so readily entered into the official vocabulary, apparently without question.
dg writes: 1967 was a different era.
ActonMan | 15.03.21 - 4:45 p.m. | #
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In my current city, Wellington we have several different crossing “green men”. Near parliament they are all Kate Shepherd - a key suffragette instrumental in women’s getting the vote. Further over town it is a man doing a haka and woman doing poi. Then in the more colourful part of town it has drag queens.
Rest of city is the boring normal green men.
Wilees | 16.03.21 - 3:59 a.m. | #
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