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Morning. The extra 11 DLR units were not paid for out of the Levelling Up Fund but from the Housing Infrastructure Fund instead. (The top whack from LUF is £50m for transport projects, which these days wouldn't buy you a whole lot of new stock.)
dg writes: updated, thanks.
THC | 09.02.23 - 7:14 a.m. | #
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Oh DG, in Hayes yesterday? Not five minutes away from us. I’d have filled the teapot and offered you some of the cakes I was making, if only I’d known. 😉🧁🧁
Jo W | 09.02.23 - 7:15 a.m. | #
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At first I thought you meant Hayes in Hillingdon and was talking about the U5
MUFC | 09.02.23 - 7:17 a.m. | #
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By an amazing coincidence I caught the 119 twice yesterday. The buses are excellent. So smooth and quiet.
The information still isn't good enough. I didn't know it then but buses were on diversion not serving Old Hayes due to a burst water main.
No advance warning. And the driver obviously didn't know. Worst of all the driver failed to take the diversion route and dropped me off in a deserted Old Hayes at a closed stop. I don't know where the bus went after that. But it meant I missed the less-than-hourly 146 to Downe which obviously went via the diverted route. The day out was effectively cancelled.
Pedantic of Purley | 09.02.23 - 8:03 a.m. | #
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BBC Man seems to think the existing DLR stock has doors between carriages.
timbo | 09.02.23 - 8:07 a.m. | #
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The new DLR moquette looks a bit like the old Waterloo and City Line one, particularly the priority seat design.
Charlie | 09.02.23 - 8:33 a.m. | #
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The code TDUxODE1NQ== in that link is the Base64 encoding of L518155. Is that a more recognisable kind of ID number for a bus?
Alex F | 09.02.23 - 8:35 a.m. | #
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Looking at the screenshot your bus clearly was on diversion but the screen gives you no clue of this.
So it knew about the diversion but failed to give any obvious indication it was happening. And didn't warn either the passengers or the driver.
Pedantic of Purley | 09.02.23 - 8:49 a.m. | #
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That QR code looks really useful. Meanwhile in Greater Manchester I've been on a whole ONE bus since 2016 that even has a display system telling you where it is. All the buses are tracked. You can go on apps and see where you are, You can go on websites like bustimes.org and see a map of what vehicles are where, even in the depths of the Lake District. But on board the bus itself, nothing. It's not even innovation now - this stuff is so old it should be mainstream.
London shows the rest of the country how it should be done. And the bus companies in the rest of the country simply go "meh".
Andrew Bowden | Homepage | 09.02.23 - 9:12 a.m. | #
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You know that the bus screen could play adverts - just sayin'.
As you said, print out the QR stickers and stick one in each window, given the extra information, is one screen per deck enough.
Hopefully the time to next stop is based on traffic conditions rather than the scheduled timetable.
Still Anon | 09.02.23 - 9:28 a.m. | #
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QR codes are on seat backs and under windows on our local buses in France which also have free wifi and charging points. Quite useful when journeys are regularly over an hour. Curiously the next stop announcements are bilingual, French and English, I'm waiting for that to happen in London with different second languages according to route / area.
ap | 09.02.23 - 9:36 a.m. | #
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Similar bus screens (sans QR code) have been on the 507 / 521 for years - a nice upgrade, but presumably someone was afraid of vandalism so only put it on the 'nice' routes!
Shows live tube statuses as well as times to future stops.
Sarah | Homepage | 09.02.23 - 9:43 a.m. | #
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lvf.io is a live tracker for London buses
Keith | 09.02.23 - 9:47 a.m. | #
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I'm guessing from the colour-co-ordination of the first two headings, that the colours chosen for the third and fourth headings have a similar thematic relevance.
cau1khead | 09.02.23 - 9:50 a.m. | #
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The bus info displays in Leiptzig and Copenhagen are informative and hard to beat. Bonus of WiFi too.
scrumpy | 09.02.23 - 11:00 a.m. | #
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Shame about the river bus prices. I'd use it a lot more if 1) I was in no hurry and 2) it came under Oyster fares and concessions.
There is nothing nicer than chugging down a river and seeing your city from a different angle.
Cornish Cockney | 09.02.23 - 11:18 a.m. | #
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The reason the QR code doesn’t work very well is that the person who designed the screen negated to realise that they need a blank “quiet” area round the edge the size of four of the “pixels” within the code.
The TfL API does allow explicit tracking of buses via their registration plate numbers, so there’s no real need for the obfuscation in the URL here.
Kirk | 09.02.23 - 11:36 a.m. | #
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The TfL Go app really should have more features added:
- search up a route number for a list of stops, see next bus from a selected stop
- ability to search bus stops
- a map similar to the 'nearby buses' widget, but an option to see all bus stops, not just those close to you
- I don't see it as essential but why not add bus tracking like the Navaho system mentioned in today's post on it?
Matthieu | 09.02.23 - 11:42 a.m. | #
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You can get live bus information for a known vehicle through TfL's Unified API. If you'd like to experiment with it, you can do so on this page. Click the green "Try it" button, enter a registration number in the "ids" field, and then click "Send" to see the raw data if there is any. (The nifty live bus map can help finding the number plate of a bus in operation.)
Joachim | 09.02.23 - 11:51 a.m. | #
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I'm pleased that the new DLR trains have finally adopted the turquoise house colours. If I recall, the red and blue river Thames livery had already been signed off by the time TfL announced that new Overground trains would receive a version of the Underground livery. Trams followed suit shortly after, leaving the DLR the odd one out. Why, with both Crossrail and the new DLR stock, have they opted for solid block colours rather than the more pleasing blue and a house colour [purple or turquoise] stripe at the skirt? Will new trams, tube and Overground trains eventually end up in a block colour version too?
Charlie | 09.02.23 - 1:01 p.m. | #
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There's no guarantee that the number in that URL is persistent across days or even journeys. It's entirely possible the on bus system gets assigned a new number and therefore a new QR code every reboot, for example.
You'd have to do some experimentation with the website or the TfL API to find out, or board the same vehicle on multiple days and see if the QR code changes. Not sure even our intrepid DG is up for that.
(at time of writing the URL has started throwing a 502 error, so armchair experimentation is not possible. The bus will get there when it gets there)
Graham | 09.02.23 - 1:06 p.m. | #
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It occurs to me, and therefor to those more nefarious than myself, that putting QR stickers all over the bus is an invitation for similar sized stickers to a less "helpful" website to be stuck over the top ...
Putters | 09.02.23 - 1:06 p.m. | #
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Getting on for 35 years since I left the area it's quite re-assuring to see the 119 is still trundling back and forth between Bromley and Croydon. And, judging by the picture, Station Approach in Hayes doesn't appear to have changed too much either.
cjw714 | 09.02.23 - 4:18 p.m. | #
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The free app London Live Bus Countdown (by Mobicia) is great at showing next buses etc . You can track the bus, see its number, look at future stops and when it’ll get there. I understand it uses TfL data. (Woman who likes bus app)
Lorraine | 09.02.23 - 7:25 p.m. | #
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Seems a good idea to link the vehicle with the online next stops info, most people wouldn’t be able to make that connection using apps. And as echoed by other commentators I get why TfL have opted for screen QR codes as stickers can easily be tampered with.
I assume the QR code and URLs are randomised to ensure it is only useful to those actually on the bus and stop others hitting the servers unnecessarily.
Josh | 09.02.23 - 9:10 p.m. | #
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Malaga city buses have information screens, showing not just the route and the next few stops but which other buses stop there (and approximately how much time you'll have to wait). Also a map showing where you are (with the bus icon chugging along) which is very handy if you don't know the names of stops but know you want to get off before it turns L or R.
The screens also feature adverts (which is possibly how they fund them) as well as exhortations to keep your feet off the seats and eat plenty of veg, and seasonal information about native flora and fauna.
Dunno about QR codes though.
Suse | 10.02.23 - 11:14 a.m. | #
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Having moved to Edinburgh recently, I can confirm that the screens on the buses are full sized monitors with the full route, diversion information, road work information, next stops, etc, being shown.
Also the Edinburgh bus application can and will guess if you are on a bus, ask you 'it looks like you are on the 44, is this correct', and then go to that journey.
Sykobee | 09.03.23 - 11:50 a.m. | #
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Having moved to Edinburgh recently, I can confirm that the screens on the buses are full sized monitors with the full route, diversion information, road work information, next stops, etc, being shown.
Also the Edinburgh bus application can and will guess if you are on a bus, ask you 'it looks like you are on the 44, is this correct', and then go to that journey.
Sykobee | 09.03.23 - 11:50 a.m. | #
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