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I have delivered to the Cheese Grater, there is a lift that can take a 7.5 tonne lorry, it descends in LED lit glass sided lift 2 storeys to a cavernous area - it feels like I am in a James Bond movie when I go!
Nick | 18.09.17 - 7:05 a.m. | #
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Leadenhall street is east of Liverpool street, so how could it affect views of St Paul's from Richmond park?
ian | 18.09.17 - 7:28 a.m. | #
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ian - without checking sight lines, this also applies to buildings built behind St. Paul's, so it doesn't disfigure the silhouette
all this was screwed up by Newham who authorised a tall building, but, because it was Newham, the usual checks that were made for buildings in the City weren't made.
dg writes: The legally-protected 'Landmark Background Assessment Area' only stretches back as far as Tower Hamlets.
Whether the view from Richmond Hill should dictate what is built where in London is another matter.
Still anon | 18.09.17 - 7:43 a.m. | #
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AH, thanks, anon.
That '70s telephone exchange was the word processor building so hated by Prince Charles, Mondial House.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondial_House
I doubt that its replacement is going to deserve it's own Wikipedia page.
ian | 18.09.17 - 8:23 a.m. | #
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Great read. First time I was in the Leadenhall it took me 5 minutes to figure out how the lifts worked otherwise it's very slick.
Kevin | 18.09.17 - 8:23 a.m. | #
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Yes, you do indeed see Nomura employees taking the river air on the roof terrace. Rather a nicer terrace than the windswept one at Riverbank House next door, although that one is somewhat higher up and wraps around so you can do a complete 360 degree tour.
Andrew | 18.09.17 - 8:40 a.m. | #
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Seems like we chose all of the same buildings!
The RSH+P team were brilliant - our tour also ended up being about ninety minutes. We talked about the small floor plates too; apparently the top seven levels below the plant are rented out for private events because none were big enough for an office.
Matthew | 18.09.17 - 9:44 a.m. | #
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@Still anon
I think you'll find that it wasn't Newham who screwed up, the planning authority for that Manhattan Loft building is the LLDC not Newham.
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@still anon etc
The Landmark Background Protection Area does not include Newham, possibly because no-one ever thought anything that tall would be built that far from the Square Mile
Given that the Manhattan Loft Building is now a fait accompli, the simplest way of restoring the sky background to the view of St Pauls might be to move King Henry's Mound about 100 yards further south!
timbo | 18.09.17 - 10:52 a.m. | #
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Nomura's HQ was never in the Docklands. They were HQ'd at Nomura House on 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, in the shadow of St Paul's, just behind BT. The take over of the European elements of a defunct US bank led them to have a stay in Canary Wharf (that organisation's previous building), but was never their HQ.
dg writes: Rewritten, thanks.
Jordan D | 18.09.17 - 11:09 a.m. | #
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@still anon
The Manhattan Loft is in the Olympic Park site, not Docklands, so the relevant planning authority in 2011 was the Olympic Delivery Authority
The London Docklands Development Corporation was wound up in 1998.
The protected area extends 3km behind St Pauls - The Olympic Park is more than twice that distance.
timbo | 18.09.17 - 11:09 a.m. | #
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I stand corrected, having a quick look on the net, there is the conspiracy vs cock-up theory, but given there was no legal need to comply with the rules east of Tower Hamlets, it isn't even a cock-up.
Perhaps at most, a lack of foresight and imagination when the rules were first drawn up.
Still anon | 18.09.17 - 11:10 a.m. | #
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Taking the escalator from the pavement into the Leadenhall building felt like entering a space capsule.
I would definitely consider the Leadenhall an architectural success
louise | 18.09.17 - 1:59 p.m. | #
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"...the RHSP workforce are tightly packed in,..."
Going by the third photo, they appear to have the usual amount of space for these times. What is surprising is that the drones still have their own desks, judging by the presence of under-desk pedestal cabinets and by the dross left on and under the desks. No hotdesking there it would seem: how quaint.
dg writes: Not my opinion, but that of the RHSP employee taking us round.
meh | 18.09.17 - 2:48 p.m. | #
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I stumbled across King Henry's Mount by chance last summer and was surprised how far it is from the closest point in Richmond Park to St Paul's. That must add a mile or so to the line that must be kept clear and, of course, make the view of St Paul's that much smaller. On the other hand, though, it is pretty cool to be able to see Windsor Castle from the same point.
whiff | 19.09.17 - 3:00 a.m. | #
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The cheesegrater isn't really anywhere near St Pauls from Richmond Park.
The slope is to avoid the dome from Fleet Street
dg writes: Absolutely right, sorry.
Updated, thanks.
stevekeiretsu | 19.09.17 - 11:00 a.m. | #
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There was actually a fair amount of Archaeology at Watermark Place excavated for the new building (I worked on it...) and even more so next door at Riverbank House - if interested http://www.mola.org.uk/medieval-haywharf-20th-century-brewery-excavations-watermark-place-city-london
Jonny | 22.09.17 - 12:17 p.m. | #
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