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3 minutes from Whitechapel to Canary Wharf?!
My mental map of London is going to need to do a lot of changing.
Dan | 09.06.18 - 7:49 a.m. | #
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It will be interesting to see what difference cross rail might make to other journeys and whether I should change my existing routes eg Victoria to Paddington or Liverpool St. Coupled with new Thameslink services and time tables I will have to reassess routes I have used for the last 40 years or so.
Brian | 09.06.18 - 8:10 a.m. | #
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Interesting that London's original underground line, Paddington to Farringdon of 1863, is here being built in parallel to modern standards.
Daniel Rust | Homepage | 09.06.18 - 8:27 a.m. | #
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TCR to Farringdon: you can also take the tube to Holborn, then the 243 bus to the same Hatton Garden stop. It beats the first busy section of the bus-only option.
Greg S | 09.06.18 - 8:53 a.m. | #
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for Custom House-Woolwich, did you consider a walk to West Silvertown rather than Canning Town double-back? Does involve the stairs on the bridge, seeing as I'm not sure I've ever seen the lifts in action on it and the planned transporter cradle never happened
Al__S | 09.06.18 - 8:56 a.m. | #
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Wait times may make a significant difference to journey times of just a few minutes. As I understand it, Crossrail is aiming for 20 trains per hour in the central section, so average wait times of about 1.5 minutes. They'll have to be quick with loading and unloading. This station is [...] ... Please stand clear of the closing doors.
Andrew | 09.06.18 - 9:16 a.m. | #
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Abbey Wood to Canary Wharf will be a massive time saver over the current routes (changing at Woolwich Arsenal or Greenwich to the DLR or a bus to North Greenwich)
Mikey C | 09.06.18 - 9:54 a.m. | #
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TCR to Farringdon can be done by Tube with only one change - at Liverpool Street - but it's a very circuitous route and almost certainly slower than any of the choices you tried.
dg writes: ...which is why I didn't mention it.
timbo again | Homepage | 09.06.18 - 10:16 a.m. | #
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Just as well that many journey times will be short, given that that the austere new trains have painted concrete seats, most of them the wrong way round !
Gerry | 09.06.18 - 10:37 a.m. | #
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DG - How do you get time to do all this? and eat - and sleep - and go to the loo - and etc etc
Boxer | 09.06.18 - 11:17 a.m. | #
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Top quality article and details. But quite difficult for me to read the n.b. points. They're showing on this monitor as small and grey on a grey background. Smaller font and lower contrast than these comments. Firefox browser set to 110% zoom level, Stylish off, well-known adblocker off, reading glasses on and cleaned. Worth the struggle though.
Pimlico Pete | 09.06.18 - 12:28 p.m. | #
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He doesn’t care about those with visual problems and thinks it’s cool to put them in tube colours: it’s not.
Mark | 09.06.18 - 12:37 p.m. | #
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I click on the four lines to the left of the address bar and read in clear monochrome and uniform font size. Easy!
NLW | 09.06.18 - 9:20 p.m. | #
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A third direct service between Stratford and Liverpool Street is the one that's doing our heads in at work.
Ralph Ayres | 09.06.18 - 11:12 p.m. | #
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Nice theories, except that peoples destinations are not the stations themselves, but somewhere near the station, which may or may not be near another station. Many people heading for the West End from Paddington will be heading for shops between Bond Street and Oxford Circus so a direct Bakerloo to the latter makes more sense. Similarly, using Chancery Lane instead of Farringdon depends on which side of Farringdon you are actually heading for.
kev | 10.06.18 - 9:40 a.m. | #
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@ kev
The Hanover Square exit from Bond Street Crossrail should be ideal for people wanting shops between Bond Street and Oxford Circus.
Gerry | 10.06.18 - 10:43 a.m. | #
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I have done several tests and find its just possible to match Crossrail's claimed timings from Paddington to Canary Wharf using the Bakerloo & Jubilee.
You are right it all depends on where people start their journeys, there will be winners and losers.
Rog (1LondonBlog) | Homepage | 10.06.18 - 2:03 p.m. | #
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There's another issue, distance from ticket barrier to platform, or distance between lines at interchanges.
I haven't looked at all the Crossrail station plans but I expect there will be journeys where Crossrail is further from the ticket barrier than other lines. Think how long some of the interchanges with the Jubilee are.
ap | 10.06.18 - 3:34 p.m. | #
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Is Crossrail even intended to be much faster for journeys in the centre? I thought it was more about congestion relief there.
Chz | 11.06.18 - 10:18 a.m. | #
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Does DG enjoy these days out as much as a more traditional day out?
Don't think there was much value is this one, better the time between the street entrances (times for Crossrail will have to wait).
Things DG might do when Crossrail opens:
- Ride each route end to end
- Record the time between each platform and exit
- Record the time between each CR and tube platform
- Discuss new 'tube' map
- Compare tube loadings before and after. Anecdotally and empirically.
- Plenty more...
James | 12.06.18 - 9:32 a.m. | #
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