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Blimey, I wonder what happened to 1973TS car 166? Was that the Russell Square bomb?

Today's tube quiz question: what is "the obvious time"?

I don't have a comment. I just want to see the date after my name.

11.11, obviously :-)

Swirlything: yes, bombed on 7/7/2005. Also true of two A-Stock cars, which were replaced with new cars.

Shouldn't the second set of different mode OSIs be called the Wombling Free list?

More on topic oyster cards are great! I put mine through the washing machine and no data was lost and I can still use the card.

20 minutes to get from Wood Lane to White City? That's more than generous. You could nip across to TV Centre and watch a dance on Strictly in between stations.

No A stock cars were damaged on 7/7. The trains you are thinking of were both Circle Line trains, and formed of C stock. The replacement vehicles (both trailers) were built in Hungary. Another car in the fleet is also a replacement for a bomb-damaged one: it was added to the second (C77) production run to replace a C69 car bombed by the IRA.


My local station is mentioned I see, takes 30 secs to interchange from overground to DLR... (damn, out by 1 minute!)

Your comments about the out of station interchanges reminds me of something I'd love to see solved. If you want to travel from A to B by tube and your journey covers different tube lines you'll be charged the same fare as if it was on the same line.

But with buses if your journey involves one more changes you have to pay the fare again. So you could travel 10 miles on one bus or 10 miles on 3 buses, but the last journey costs you three times as much.

I don't live in London so it's even worse where the fares are double what they are in London (the two mile journey from where I live to the town centre by bus costs £2.30 one way, for example).

The most annoying thing about Oyster PAYG is that doesn't understand your direction when the touch point is on the wall, and not by the ticket barrier.

For example you exit at Finsbury Park, touch out, display says EXIT. Few minutes later if you touch in again to continue your journey, it says EXIT again. Now what?

But it is even worse the other way round, when you touch out where you have previously entered, and it says ENTER both times, and charges you 2x the maximum cash fare. Damn, I hate it.

Shadwell is DLR to Overground.


dg agrees: I've removed it, thanks.

@jon combe

This didn't used to be such a problem when bus fares were distance-related, or even when they were zoned, because a long journey would cost more than a short one even if you could do it all one one bus. But now that flat fares apply in London, there are some real bargains, and some which are very definitely not.

There is a system of emergency OSIs, under which the Tottenham Ct Road changing to Goodge Street comes. This is due to the non-stopping at TCR due to Cross Rail.
The Oyster system is "reloaded" every weekend, and the emergency OSIs have to be re-applied each time (many people will have changed from Central to Norhtern using this route and been charged twice by accident).

Apologies if you've featured this already, but this is incredible, and might be good for tube related blogging especially near the Paralympics. This is what the tube map looks like if you can't use stairs http://www.transportforall.org.uk/files/stepfreetube.jpg











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