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The 209 runs from Mortlake to Castelnau.
dg writes: Updated thanks.
(TfL website is wrong).
Sprout Eater | 02.09.21 - 7:05 a.m. | #
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How the mighty 25 has fallen!!
scrumpy | 02.09.21 - 7:16 a.m. | #
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Further distorted figures as X68 did not run at all 23rd March - 11th July 2020
Richard | 02.09.21 - 7:33 a.m. | #
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I am reminded of the recent xkcd cartoon which simply shows a dashed list of each year from 2016 - 2025 with an asterisk by 2020 and a hash by 2021. The caption reads, 'Data Tables for Evermore'!
It made me smile, and I hope it turns out to be true, I can't take much more of this.
Ken | 02.09.21 - 8:38 a.m. | #
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Statistically meaningless but with one huge caveat: we now know which bus routes are most important for essential workers - and I can think of no higher purpose for public transport.
Philip | 02.09.21 - 8:51 a.m. | #
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The 209 figures are extra confusing because for 3 months of 2019/20 it was running to Putney Bridge. However, those journeys were replaced by new route 378 and so the like for like year on year comparison is very messy even if you exclude Covid.
Then in August 2020 when Hammersmith Bridge was closed even to pedestrians, the number of 209 buses was cut as it was now a dead end.
That will also be the reason for the big drop on the 33.
ap | 02.09.21 - 8:59 a.m. | #
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Buses may have maintained a high frequency during the pandemic, but the cuts are arriving now as the contracts for each route are awarded
Mikey C | 02.09.21 - 9:27 a.m. | #
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Interesting that route suburban R7, slated for cuts and out to consultation, isn't in any of the lower-end lists.
dg writes: It's among the next ten.
Officially, the R7 changes are to generate better reliability, but the proposed changes may just deliver fewer opportunities to travel.
The recent bus cuts, even with current restrictions, are an example of downgrading passenger need and upgrading sensitivity to spend.
TfL is skint, no arguing, but users are being made to pay for that, when past government ended the annual support grant. The blame game continues.
Joel | 02.09.21 - 11:02 a.m. | #
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A minor contribution to the drop in passenger numbers is the 'temporary' ban on the use of Older Persons' Freedom Passes before 9.00 introduced in the wake of Covid-19. An indignant poster to the NextDoor site just discovered this and indulged in a 'bring back Boris, sack Sadiq' rant. While I do not endorse this, I would like my freedom to ride buses and tubes at any time of day restored!
kerbd | 02.09.21 - 11:17 a.m. | #
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The 404 was extended to Cane Hill (new housing estate in Coulsdon built on former lunatic asylum) and frequency doubled to half hourly.
I don't think I have ever seen a passenger on a bus in Cane Hill (except for myself). It is a case of a combination of high car ownership and a relatively fit population that would rather walk to Coulsdon or Coulsdon South station than wait for a half-hourly bus.
On the rest of the route I don't think I have ever seen more than three passengers on a bus. Having said that, the people on it look as if they are elderly and the bus is their lifeline to get to the shops in a hilly area.
Pedantic of Purley | 02.09.21 - 1:10 p.m. | #
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Interesting to note that the first five of the ten busiest are all ex-tram & trolleybus radials. The remaining five includes three original LGOC bus routes that have taken over sections of ex-tram & trolleybus radials: 86,25 & 36. The 207 & 109 also as once electric tram and trolleybus routes.
That list gives a good indication of where investment into high quality, second generation tram services should be going. Ten new tram routes for London, numbered 1 to 10. This generation's commitment to clean transport for the future.
Steve | Homepage | 02.09.21 - 1:27 p.m. | #
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Would it be straight-forward to use the data to calculate which roads carry the most bus passengers? Combining the data on the routes that use the same road.
dg writes: No.
Bryn Davies | 02.09.21 - 5:54 p.m. | #
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It wouldn't make a huge difference, just change the order slightly, but it always feels slightly unfair to count the R5 and R10 separately. They're just running in opposite directions around the same route. It's like TfL splitting the 25 into 25W towards the City and 25E towards Ilford.
Ned | 02.09.21 - 7:36 p.m. | #
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I was also going to suggest the R5 and R10 are the same route, so shouldn't be counted separately.
Greg | 05.09.21 - 4:22 a.m. | #
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