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The official report and various books point out that a combination of the curved track at that point and the reduced visibility due to the fog meant that driver Trew would not have been able to see the critical signals in the limited field of vision that he had. He was utterly reliant on the fireman spotting the signals - but didn't ask him to do so. A further contributory cause was the fact that they would not have expected to get a red signal at this location.

This location seems to get more than its fair share of fatal incidents. I was told that when they built the "fly-down" around 1975 that one or more workmen died in its construction. Later when they were extending the platform to take 12-carriage trains a bridge had to be demolished. This was done in such an unsafe manner that more deaths occurred. There is due to be major work done here (doubling the "fly-down") as part of the Thameslink Programme. Lets hope they manage that without further deaths.

On a pedantic note it was 89 commuters and one member of staff (a guard) who lost their lives - not 90 commuters.

The "coal truck behind"? Do you mean the tender?

dg writes: I considered writing "the tender behind", but somehow it didn't seem appropriate.

Lewisham wasn't the sole accident which led to the installation of AWS. A similar system was already used on the former Great Western Railway, and a trial of AWS was installed on the London, Tilbury & Southend line in the 1940s. The Harrow accident occurred 3 years earlier in very similar circumstances, had a higher death toll, and is the accident usually cited as sparking BR's interest in installing AWS nationally - a programme which wasn't completed until the 1990s.

Incidentally, South London has been described as one of the areas where AWS is least effective, because it's so busy that trains often have to pass signals at caution (yellow). AWS gives exactly the same indication for "caution" and "stop", so where trains are following closely together, and the second train will be passing lots of signals at caution, it gives the driver limited help.

The AWS problem you describe was a contributory factor to the Purley rail crash in 1989.

Pedantically, I don't think I'll risk writing about the anniversary of the Purley rail crash.

The Purley train crash in terms of historical significance is not very interesting. Possibly even worse than not having a memorial we have a totally insignificant uncared-for area of the station "dedicated" to the victims. The plaque is illegible and most people using the station probably walk right past it each day without realising what it is. It would almost be better to have nothing.

Apart from that we had a railman die in recent years fighting a fire on a train (caused by arson) so we have a not-quite-straight plaque on one of the platforms dedicated to his memory.

Unfortunately, like St. Johns, Purley station and surrounding area seems to attract fatalities. Historically trespassers on the line from the local loony bin were a major cause. Slightly to the north at Purley Oaks there was a major accident in 1947. This, like St. Johns, had thick fog as an initial cause. 32 people died as a result of the signalman incorrectly believing his equipment was faulty and overriding the safety apparatus.

Recently an aggregates train from Purley yard departed because the driver mistook another signal for the one applying to him. It was serious enough for the Rail Accident Investigation Board to investigate and report on it.

I refer to this list to remind me of the crashes over the years. I don't knoew most of the places, so struggle to attach the "name"of the disater to the cause. I remember and think often about the sleepy landrover driver, the cracked Italian rails, the broken points, the SPAD.

http:/
ews.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/63.../uk/
6392041.stm


But is it acomprehensive list, or is there a better list?

If ever I get concerned that I may be a bit obsessive, I read the comments under these sorts of posts and am reassured

Just being pedantic: Forestpines said that the Harrow train distaster ocurred 3 years earlier. First of all it was not Harrow, it was "Harrow & Wealdstone", and secondly it was *five* years earlier, not three.

Found an interesting interview from R4's Home Truths with a couple who were among the first on the scene:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/
home...\\_lewisham.shtml


Think that link's in dg's post anyway

tee hee, Blue Witch. You took the words right out of my mouth!

A very interesting post though; I've often looked at that plaque and wondered about the story behind it.

Gosh, I remember this happening when I was about 12 yrs old, and as my Dad was a train buff we sat round and watched it on the news on our old B & W TV.
40 years later I moved to the Lewisham/New Cross area, and often went under the bridge.

A doubly sad memory for me because it happened around the same time that my best friend's brother was killed in a car crash in foggy Wanstead.

Strange that. My father rang me last night from the UK and I was able to remind him that he had got home very late 50 years ago.

I was 11, asleep, and he came into my room to tell me that there'd been a horrendous crash at Lewisham, where I went to school (Colfe's). At that age, it didn't really affect me, but like Tina, I recall watching the TV news.

What intrigues me now is the plaque: is it 'Corporate Social Responsibility' in the UK for a funeral parlour, amongst the others, to sponsor such things?











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