please empty your brain below

I feel sad for bus stop M.

I feel less charitable towards the DBS team.
God bless Bus Stop M and all which stops, or otherwise, at it.
Be fair, "This stop does not serve any TfL routes" is a completely true statement.

Then again in formal logic any statement about something that doesn't exist is considered to be true, because there's no way that anything can contradict it. It's called the existential fallacy.

Now knowing that DG distrusts 'Broken Link' reports so much I thought long and hard about this... do I tell him that the 'Bus Stop M' link in this post is indeed a broken link or not...

Advice and answers from anyone more sensible than me gratefully accepted...

dg writes: Best tell me :) Fixed, thanks.
Any plans for a series where you visit every Bus Stop M in London...?

dg writes: There are over 400 of them, so no.
TfL have obviously decided that they don't want to be troubled by mere mortals reporting missing timetable panels: their illegal 0845 Service Charge number costs up to 57p per minute !
In a way I am relieved by this report. It suggests to me that the bus stop maintenance teams (both physical and virtual) (probably severely decimated by successive waves of "back office money-saving") do not do any special favours for stops like M-at-Bow (because of the publicity), but allow them to decay just like the rest of the public realm.
I hope Bert's happy.
@anon
"Then again in formal logic any statement about something that doesn't exist is considered to be true, because there's no way that anything can contradict it."

I don't understand that - surely you can contradict many such statements - for example "Route 68 calls at Bus stop G at Bow Church" can be disproved by listing all the stops that route 68 calls at.

I don't think it's vandalism, I reckon it's souvenir hunters
"This stop does not serve any TfL routes"

If we're being really picky, surely it should be "This stop is not served by any TfL routes" anyway.

Buses serve bus stops, not the other way around!

who knows...one day bus stop M may become bus stop DG? just a thought
No, I reckon that bus stops and buses have a symbiotic relationship, in which each serves the other. A metaphor of some kind perhaps.
I don't see what Timbo is getting at. Either route 68 exists, in which case a statement about it is not "a statement about something which does not exist". Or it does not, in which case you cannot disprove anything by listing its stops, as there are none.
@Malcolm

"Either route 68 exists, in which case a statement about it is not "a statement about something which does not exist". Or it does not"

DG tells us that Bus stop G doesn't exist (at Bow). Therefore a statement that Route 68 (which certainly does exist) calls at Bus Stop G at Bow is logically provable to be wrong.

What's with the increasingly faint shades of grey?

dg writes: I'm fading that particular thread out, Charles.
It is rather sad to see M wounded and reduced. Perhaps a Friends of Bus Stop M (FOBS-M) might lobby for full restoration of correct information with appendages. Mind you, I am in First Bus territory and I look on with envy that you have any useful and working information at all in any form, concrete or electronic, and a shelter. Hoping for an update on M's condition.
Instead of visiting every bus stop "M" one could visit every bus stop "DG"? I know of two...not sure if there are more!
I almost missed the bus stop m post, which surely should come at the top of a double topic offering!
Yay, nightbus N205 has finally been shifted, on the digital map, from Bus Stop L (incorrect) to Bus Stop J (correct).

Bus Stop G apparently still exists, though.










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