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My dog couldn't visit the Beehive as it's a greyhound. Definitely not fat, just 30kg of bone, muscle and fur. Anyway, he doesn't like pubs. Too noisy and no sofa to stretch out on.
Dogs in pubs? Fine with me as long as they behave, just like the punters.

Scientist | 15.03.25 - 7:12 a.m. | #

I trust they have clearly indicated that Guide and assistance dogs are exempt from this rather strange rule?

Either way, I’m not sure I see any correlation between size of dog and propensity to lie quietly under a table without barking or stealing food, so the threshold seems a bit arbitrary.

Robert | 15.03.25 - 7:23 a.m. | #

My beautiful greyhound with her spaghetti legs is 23kg.
She assures me will we survive this disappointment.

Karen Hart | 15.03.25 - 7:25 a.m. | #

I have thoughts on proper use of units. It is one of those things I am unduly exercised about so thank you for presenting an opportunity.

The unit gram has the symbol g. G is reserved for the multiplier prefix G for giga.

The multiplier prefix kilo has the symbol k. K is reserved for the unit of temperature kelvin.

They seek exclude dogs above 15 gigakelvin. I'm pretty sure they didn't mean to do that because that is flipping hot. The surface of the sun is only 5.5 kK (kilokelvin). What would Lord Kelvin make of this?

Is there nowhere in the training of pub landlords that requires them to read ISO 80000?

Tunnel Bore | 15.03.25 - 7:30 a.m. | #

- not applicable as I don't have one
- fine generally, especially in rural pubs, but not in crowded central London ones

DavidC | 15.03.25 - 7:44 a.m. | #

If only they imposed a weight limit on the human punters as well.

Caroline | 15.03.25 - 7:57 a.m. | #

This is outrageous. It should be 33.07 pounds or 2.362 Stone post Brexit.

Keith the Kraut | 15.03.25 - 8:09 a.m. | #

Bring back public bars, where dogs, muddy boots, and rowdy punters are permitted. But otherwise ban dogs from pubs.. Wetherspoons have got this right.

Apuldram | 15.03.25 - 8:15 a.m. | #

My daughter and her partner have five dogs, each of which would be less than 15kg, so I guess it would be OK for them to take them all into the pub?

Neil | 15.03.25 - 8:27 a.m. | #

Dogs in pubs should be mandatory.

Stu | 15.03.25 - 8:29 a.m. | #

I am indifferent to dogs in general but what gets my goat is that owners seem to think that you want to say hello to their pet or that their dog wants to be your friend. This especially gets me in a micro pub (my local) where there hardly enough room for punters let alone bloody dogs.

David | 15.03.25 - 8:42 a.m. | #

Tunnel Bore: You had me there in the first few lines - I thought you had lost the plot. Very funny!

David | 15.03.25 - 8:45 a.m. | #

Wouldn't gigakelvins be GK? And at least they didn't put an 's' on the end.

Trevor S | 15.03.25 - 8:46 a.m. | #

When I moved to Rotherhithe in 2013, one of my early projects was to investigate all the drinking holes in the area... 10 minutes walk away was The Ship York which had a sign bolted to the outside wall describing the venue as "A country pub in London" and immediately below, "No Dogs Allowed".

Closed down the following year, was not surprised.

Richard | 15.03.25 - 9:00 a.m. | #

Personally, I'd be happy for all dogs to be banned from pubs (except assistance dogs, of course) but realise this would cause an outcry in some places.

Hadders | 15.03.25 - 9:09 a.m. | #

I venture to suggest that 3 exclamation marks seriously imply that the sign is NOT serious.

rogergh | 15.03.25 - 9:23 a.m. | #

Top tip: weigh yourself; pick up dog; weigh yourself with dog; do the maths.

If you can't pick up the dog then it is obviously too heavy!!!

miker | 15.03.25 - 9:36 a.m. | #

IMO dogs of every heft improve public places and spaces. Unless you have a phobia, eh DG.

Frank F | 15.03.25 - 9:59 a.m. | #

My dog would fail this test three times over, once for each exclamation mark. As an Irish Wolfhound mix, we were braced for something pushing 100kg when we picked him up from the shelter, but fortunately he seems to have levelled off at about half that. Unknown what percentage is fur, but it's a large one.

Ben | 15.03.25 - 10:35 a.m. | #

Agree with Stu that all pubs benefit from having a dog about the place. Especially the the larger soppy ones that just wander about to say hello and want a tickle behind the ears.

Scrappy yappies are another matter...

rogergh | 15.03.25 - 12:47 p.m. | #

In principle I don’t object to dogs in pubs, if they stay with their owner, ideally asleep on the floor. I do object if they wander round causing a nuisance, including snuffling up to other people (not everyone likes dogs). Sadly the latter is more common in my experience, so I do support bans in practice.

I never have issues with assistance dogs, which by definition are well behaved and fully trained.

Nick | 15.03.25 - 1:25 p.m. | #

Are they going to weigh the customers. Don't think you'll be served if you are over 75kg!!!!!!

David | Homepage | 15.03.25 - 1:41 p.m. | #

I agree with Nick and David.

Well-behaved dogs are a credit to their owner. Since COVID there seems to be a lot more dogs around and unfortunately many of them are not well-behaved.

I recently visited a pub that had a one-bark rule. Some dogs go crazy when another enters the pub, straining at the lead and yapping away so that seemed a good idea.

The 'just being friendly' really does my head in. And don't get me started on extendable leads.

Wild Edric | 15.03.25 - 2:00 p.m. | #

I don't have a dog. I'm not keen on them except the cute little white ones. There is a pub called The Beehive in New Eltham, I lived a minutes walk away for five years but never ventured inside. I am not a pub person. Or a dog person

David | 15.03.25 - 2:45 p.m. | #

I presume it's breed rather than weight that's the problem.

And small dogs are less conducive to a pub atmosphere, being generally more extrovert than bigger dogs (and if they aren't small breeds that are yappy or over-friendly, then they are normally scared somewhere like a pub and shouldn't be there).

A rottweiler is, sure, a big problem if you annoy them, but a cockerpoo is a big problem who will annoy you by either barking (to try) or by running around trying to make friends by licking them.

Si | 15.03.25 - 5:12 p.m. | #

On a trip to Paris a few years ago, I was intrigued, over the duration of our stay, to see a non-trivial number of Great Danes being walked in the very centre of the city. The logistics of keeping such animals as pets there must also have been non-trivial. I don't think I've ever seen one in London - but maybe in Bromley-by-Bow.

jpmac | 15.03.25 - 5:14 p.m. | #

Dogs in supermarkets?
Apparently, YES if you can carry them or wheel them in a canine perambulator.

Anyoldname | 15.03.25 - 6:01 p.m. | #

I got chucked out of the M&S food store at Clapham Junction station because I was carrying my late Scottie dog...

Richard | 15.03.25 - 6:27 p.m. | #

A dachshund living near me has Short Dog Syndrome and the loudest bark of any dog I’ve ever heard, so perhaps there should be other criteria for pub entry apart from weight. A one-bark policy sounds about right.

Labourer | 15.03.25 - 6:39 p.m. | #

Yeahbut....
What about cats in pubs?

cau1khead | 15.03.25 - 7:36 p.m. | #

Richard: i lived near the Ship York in Rotherhithe, it was a great pub (now sadly a block of flats). The Ship and Whale was better though.

dncn | 16.03.25 - 8:53 p.m. | #

Apart from anything else, with all the windows boarded up it must be pretty dark inside. Even a banner covering the windows would be an improvement on what's currently there..

Adrian | 17.03.25 - 9:06 a.m. | #

My dog is 15.2kg, but I reckon he looks lighter to the untrained eye.

Either way, I tend to leave him at home as he can be a nuisance unless he's knackered.

Gunnersaurus | 17.03.25 - 10:19 a.m. | #











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