please empty your brain below

eventually, someday, when suitable set-top boxes and bandwidth exist. There's no sign of either yet

The service starts in December and these changes are to provide bandwidth. Set top boxes go on sale at roughly the same time.

(the controversial bit is that HD won't be available in all regions, but the Red Button service is being reduced everywhere)

Thanks Graham. I've now updated that particular paragraph, using helpful information from here.

The mass switch-off and slow switch-back-on are clearly the most annoying part of the change (especially for viewers in the London TV region not using the Crystal Palace transmitter, who face a three year hiatus).

That retune was a pain too- had to retune mine a couple of times to get all my channels back, and I've had several missed recordings since. They better get the boxes in the shops pronto if they're putting us through this hassle to broadcast HD!

I remember when digiboxes came out over here. They were hideously expensive, few people bought them and just as well as for some reason, they couldn't be used a couple or so years later.

My TV provider rents them out very cheaply now and they are the latest models and extremely good. We can record up to 200 hours of 'stuff', have access to more channels than necessary and if we had an HD TV, would see everything in HD. I'm waiting for the sales...

Isn't the internet infinitely better than red buttons?

(I admit I'm not a sports fan though)

((or a TV fan, come to that...))

We have a few old TVs left by one of the boys when he went to work in China. We only use one for playing the Wii, when we go digital will we be able to stop paying the licence?

I wont miss the multi view news. But I would have thought that HD via terrestrial is potentiallly a dead end - Freesat provides that?

Sigh. An inevitable consequence of living in an IT evolving world. I still get irritated by constant changes with computer software....one day I'll be able to use equipment without fearing it's going to fall over itself, become obsolete in a couple of years etc etc....one day.

Here in the states we are entering the HD television thicket of confusion. And it is a very nasty thicket for sure. One now requires three remote controls, a set-top boxy thing with 2 buttons and unlimited patience to make it all work.

It's enough to make me want to sign up for a class action lawsuit against the cable companies that led us down this path.

And ironically, the picture quality from my TV is actually worse!

So much for progress.

'before Jensen Button became famous'... I just had to google him to find out who you were writing about.

As you can guess, I don't read the sports pages much!

I like most things about Freeview, the improved picture quality, more choice of channels etc. But I do wish it would stop constantly changing. Too often the box I have pops up a "new channels detected" all over the screen and insists you re-tune before you can watch anything. That and prompts to apply "updates". Sometimes I think TV and computers may have become too closely linked!

I've been TV free for eight years (wasn't watching it enough to justify the licence fee) and things have moved on so much in that time that most of that post is completely beyond me. I don't see how I could ever get back into it now, even if I wanted to!

I get annoyed with the "red button" which the BBC are so fond of displaying in the top right hand corner of screen on Freeview and Satellite digital, especially during the news.
On my Sky box I have adjusted the settings so that the "red button" on the screen goes of after 30 seconds, alternatively with a Sky box pressing "Back" on the remote control will remove it from the screen
With Freeview pressing the green button on your remote control will normal make the red button disappear from the screen.
Taking the button display from the screen does not stop you still being able to use the red button services if you want to.

All the more surprising since, when Ofcom offered the choice of HD and more SD (standard def) channels on real people, demonstrating each of the options to them over the course of a day, the preference was overall for... more channels, not (necessarily) (more) HD. Hmm.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocom...nts/research07/


My mum is bemoaning the loss of Ceefax in the very near future. The red button text service is very slow and as already mentioned gives little information.

I have Sky HD but still use the net when looking at the new rather than the text service.











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