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LU staff have had the pleasure of using this 'special' exit for a number of years - but only for lift training on the hydraulic lift which is common type for mobility access to Jubilee line stations. I seem to recall that the Bow Creek area was contaminated land, maybe that's why the work took a long time to get going.
Rob | 22.08.16 - 7:49 a.m. | #
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Hopeless !
Glad I didn't fall for the hype and spend out a great deal of lucre on a lifestyle straight off the plan.
Never believe their promises !
petras409 | 22.08.16 - 8:10 a.m. | #
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Is the enclosed walkway from wharfside road open as well? or is it only the gate you get to by walking right round the Limmo park?
dg writes: Still locked, alas.
Julian Bond | Homepage | 22.08.16 - 8:35 a.m. | #
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Petras409 - It seems a bit harsh to imply that this is the developers fault and their promises shouldn't be believed. I don't anyone has suggested they did anything wrong, and it appears to be out of their control.
Does anyone know who actual paid for this future proofing back in 1999 - was it TFL or was it part funded by either a developer or Government/local government to aid the redevelopment?
dg writes: The most useful document for researching the rotunda's backstory is the Design and Access Statement from the latest planning application. But it doesn't say who paid.
Messiah | 22.08.16 - 9:34 a.m. | #
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Surely the apartment blocks have been erected along the Leamouth Peninsula, not the Limmo Peninsula? In actual fact the northern prong of the Leamouth peninsula, where the apartments are, used to be called the Goodluck Hope peninsula.
Also, as annoying as it is to have to go the long way round for the new residents, they don’t have to go across the dual carriageway, just along it for a bit.
dg writes: Fixed, thanks.
langdon | 22.08.16 - 9:42 a.m. | #
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It's listed as 'DLR rotunda' on the ever useful openstreetmap.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/51.51282/0.00617
Concierge city indeed.
I remember an all night party here (Trinity Buoy Wharf??) in the late nineties/ early noughties. One of the memorable experiences was the smell of the food processing works. Was it margarine or something? Oil? Can't remember, but felt sorry for the people who worked there.
Lorenzo | 22.08.16 - 9:43 a.m. | #
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From your picture, it seems that the rotunda is faced with large grey concrete paving slabs. As well as looking rather ugly, it can't be long before the graffiti vandals make their mark on them.
Not only that, but since this exit is closed it is presumably unstaffed. The architect has thoughtfully added a rail at a really useful height so that graffiti can also be added to the windows above. Oh dear.
What would Charles Holden (the rotundas at Arnos Grove and Southgate) have done?
RayL | 22.08.16 - 9:54 a.m. | #
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Still can't stand on Canning Town station DLR platforms without mentally conjuring up the smell of the Pura factory.
Joan | 22.08.16 - 9:54 a.m. | #
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The closure of the station entrance isn't the developers' fault - they must be livid.
But when their sales brochure contains wildly exaggerated claims of accessibility ("London's most connected location", "Get from your front door to Bond Street in 20 minutes", "This connectivity is powering London City Island’s evolution into a magnetic destination for the capital") it's hard to feel too sorry for them.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 22.08.16 - 10:11 a.m. | #
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When I took my own photos of it a few weeks' ago, I was told by staff that one new City Island resident with mobility issues had been carrying out a vociferous campaign to get the entrance opened. The lift was marked "not in service" then but operated for her "on request", however would not see general public use until 2017.
Kim | 22.08.16 - 10:39 a.m. | #
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Joan: "Still can't stand on Canning Town station DLR platforms without mentally conjuring up the smell of the Pura factory."
Oh god, I'm conjuring it now!! It never leaves you!
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Looking at your photographs of the new bridge I am surprised at the number of electricity pylons still standing. At the Olympic Park pylons were removed, and I would have thought with the upmarket developments being constructed at and around "City Island" the new residents would not like a view of pylons.
John | 22.08.16 - 12:08 p.m. | #
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Pura, was it? It wasn't the only place contributing to the, ahem, local air quality...
The smell was pretty awful and could affect pretty much anywhere up to a mile away, according to which way the wind was blowing.
The Knight's works (I'm pretty sure it's gone, now) had a road named after it, but the locals referred to it by a number of different names :(
https://www.newham.gov.uk/ Animalwastefactoryhitwithrecordfine.aspx
RogerW | 22.08.16 - 1:38 p.m. | #
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@Lorenzo, Joan et al.
The Pura factory had a smelly counterpart on the opposite bank at Greenwich Peninsula - Albion Chemicals. I remember walking and cycling around there to be hit by all sorts of strange aromas. I'm sure once we smelled bacon and another time strawberries, and were informed that they were involved in the manufacturing of the chemicals that put the taste into such delicacies as Frazzles and penny chews.
Also, I remember a few all-nighters at Trinity Buoy Wharf. I suspect the volume levels at the venue there are not what they once were, given the burgeoning live-work spaces in the immediate vicinity and the countless new flats close by. Back then, 15-20 years ago, it was a slice of old London, lots of dereliction, darkened alleyways and so on. It felt like it could be any faded industrial backwater. Not any more.
Matt | 22.08.16 - 2:08 p.m. | #
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It's open today, well at least the staircase is
uy hoang | 22.08.16 - 2:46 p.m. | #
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Another place with notable smells was Carpenters Rd in Stratford. It now borders part of QEOP, but for 3 years in the early 70s I used to cycle through the area on my way to college. There was Clarnico, with peppermint and other confectionery-related smells,and a meat pie factory,and other less pleasant places. All gone now, and the area is unrecognisable.
amber | 22.08.16 - 5:52 p.m. | #
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It was all built as the (delayed) Jubilee line extension, but unlike the station remained firmly fenced off in 1999. The river side of Canning Town station had been pleasantly landscaped and with a block paving footway which remained firmly closed and progressively overgrown until about a couple of years ago. Crossrail staff then used the access from the station ticket hall, so what has changed since then that makes it unsafe?.
scrumpy | 22.08.16 - 6:20 p.m. | #
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At least the City Island development will be getting that Royal Ballet School, so it will at least be alive with visitors.
rational plan | 22.08.16 - 6:29 p.m. | #
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Perhaps DG could do a 'former pongs of London' piece.
The Peak Freans biccy factory in Bermondsey could be one.
Chris | 22.08.16 - 7:21 p.m. | #
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Every so often, people blog, or text to the Evening Standard musing on the smell of roasting near Clapham Junction. If they were to take their noses away from their smartphones for a moment, they would see this.
timbo | 22.08.16 - 8:01 p.m. | #
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Straying further off-topic, one could always get the smell of vinegar around the former Sarson's plant in Tanner St, south of Tower Bridge.
The biscuit factories by 'the Sidcup line' - Peak Freans and Chiltonians (near Hither Green) - were always preferable.
RogerW | 22.08.16 - 8:12 p.m. | #
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...and driving around the Wandsworth one-way under the influence of the Youngs Brewery.
REB | 22.08.16 - 8:34 p.m. | #
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When the wind was in the right direction, you could even smell the Youngs brewery on the platforms of Clapham Junction. Timbo's coffee roasters are much nicer.
P.S. Yay for coloured text!!!
solar penguin | 22.08.16 - 9:59 p.m. | #
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The pura factory was vegetable oil in case anyone wasn't sure (I worked at the sister factory in Erith)
Rachel | 23.08.16 - 7:31 a.m. | #
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Why does the footbridge have to be such an ugly colour? I bet the person who chose it won't have to endure seeing the resultant eyesore every day.
Gerry | 23.08.16 - 11:13 a.m. | #
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Seems we now have the OFF-TOPIC KOLORON !
But seriously, does it matter if the comments sometimes wander off course a bit?
I think it can add to the variety of the blog, rather like an unexpected view or a meander off the beaten track when taking a walk. And as others have noted, it might even be the inspiration for its own blog post.
Gerry | 23.08.16 - 11:43 a.m. | #
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The use of a specific colour is to help identify a separate thread within the comments, and make it easier to follow (or ignore).
Obviously the whiff of the Pura factory isn't "off-topic", given it's what used to stand on the City Island site.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 23.08.16 - 12:17 p.m. | #
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Oh good, I'd assumed that the reddish brown colour denoted disapproval or a warning that the commenter would soon be snipped !
Perhaps the Comments Hierarchy needs needs to include a Colour Key, e.g. Red: Disapproval - It's Bert; Reddish Brown: Sub Thread; Microtype: D'oh, it's Gerry again...
Gerry | 23.08.16 - 1:24 p.m. | #
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"Due to a station compliance issue" suggests to me Disability Discrimination Act, or Rail Vehicle Access Regulations, or Persons of Reduced Mobility, or whatever the preferred term and relevant legislation is nowadays.
The entrance was probably compliant at the time it was built in 1999, but is no longer compliant in 2016 as requirements have changed. Of course, "somebody" in TfL should have checked compliance with current requirements before the entrance was opened to the public (rather than for it to be opened, and then closed again).
It could be something like the size of lettering on signs, or lack of contrasting paint on the doors, or brightness of the lighting ...
Kent Railman | 23.08.16 - 10:50 p.m. | #
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There's a full page ad in the ES tonight from Ballymore marketing the final phase of the development, the two minute walk to the Jubilee Line at Canning Town is clearly their main selling point.
JD | 24.08.16 - 1:30 a.m. | #
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Gerry
The colour of the thread seems to be chosen by DG according to the subject - so the waterfall discussion a couple of weeks ago on the Pymmes Brook thread was a tasteful blue, whilst a recent digression on buses was green (it was London Country routes being discussed)
timbo | 24.08.16 - 5:48 p.m. | #
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A Jubilee Line digression would be interesting !
Gerry | 24.08.16 - 5:58 p.m. | #
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I went there from East India Dock to see the building work, park, Trinity Buoy etc a few months ago. The footpath ended about 100m south of this entrance which was open and in use, but the lift didn't work, without any notice. Also the footpath with the white fencing was locked at the far end (Canning town side) when I tried to use it.
Toby | 25.08.16 - 1:36 p.m. | #
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My and my girlfriend exited that way at the start of August for a walk around Bow Creek Ecology Park before a trip around Canning Town and West Ham photographing old shop signs with 01 numbers. We didn't realise that it hadn't always been open. Shame to hear it's not accessible again.
Mark Cooper | 02.09.16 - 7:06 p.m. | #
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